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I have an ID4 around that price, it keeps the lane and has a lane change assist. Is there any special sauce to autopilot?

by tapoxi 2y ago

nixass 2y ago
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- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  I will be the first to say Elon is a Nazi and shouldn’t be in a leadership position. But it’s crazy to claim Model 3 and Y are not competitively priced products that are usable for many, many people. And I will also say I would not currently pay extra for a high end Tesla. But on the cheap end, and with the far superior buying experience without a stealership in the middle, it is welcome competition to the incumbent automakers.
  - DecentShoes 2y ago
    What's your evidence that he's a nazi? Waving at a crowd doesn't count btw.
    - dangus 2y ago
      Oh it’s waving? You should upload a video of yourself doing it. Do it right now if it’s not a Nazi salute. I’ll wait for your upload.
lotsofpulp 2y ago
ID4 was at least $10k more expensive in Oct 2024, with worse driving performance.
- korisnik 2y ago
  ID4's price seems to be $42k in the US? How much is the Model Y? Or did ID4's price decrease to $42k recently?
  - lotsofpulp 2y ago
    They added a new tier and dropped some and increased some. https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/vw-ditches-base-2025-id-4-for-now-meaning-starting-price-is-increased-by-5360/ https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/vw-ditches-base-2025-id-4-... I was comparing a 3 row model Y AWD with tow hitch to AWD Pro ID.4 and ID.4 was coming in close to $50k, both with the federal tax credit. And the ID.4 lacked the 3rd row seating. I am also biased against European vehicles because I assume they will be more maintenance/expensive. I had a bunch of people recommend Model Y to me, and I trusted Tesla's electric vehicle making experience more than VW.
speedgoose 2y ago
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blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
I would be shocked if ID4 had comparable driver assistance features. Even Audis are pretty shaky and unreliable. Tesla’s seem to be a few generations ahead
seb1204 2y ago
Even a current Toyota Corolla has lane assistance but turning it on, settings etc are just better at the Tesla model 3 I drive. Lane keeping is good, haptic and audio feedback are good. The Toyota has haptic steering wheel feedback that I have not figured out yet, it steers but also leaves the lane. The Toyota chirms/acoustic sounds appear to me not used consistently across different functions, sound too similar or not warning enough. Admittedly this can all be personal choice and getting used to.

I have an ID4 around that price, it keeps the lane and has a lane change assist. Is there any special sauce to autopilot?

by tapoxi 2y ago

I have an ID4 around that price, it keeps the lane and has a lane change assist. Is there any special sauce to autopilot?

nixass 2y ago

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lotsofpulp 2y ago
I will be the first to say Elon is a Nazi and shouldn’t be in a leadership position. But it’s crazy to claim Model 3 and Y are not competitively priced products that are usable for many, many people. And I will also say I would not currently pay extra for a high end Tesla. But on the cheap end, and with the far superior buying experience without a stealership in the middle, it is welcome competition to the incumbent automakers.
- DecentShoes 2y ago
  What's your evidence that he's a nazi? Waving at a crowd doesn't count btw.
  - dangus 2y ago
    Oh it’s waving? You should upload a video of yourself doing it. Do it right now if it’s not a Nazi salute. I’ll wait for your upload.

lotsofpulp 2y ago

ID4 was at least $10k more expensive in Oct 2024, with worse driving performance.

korisnik 2y ago
ID4's price seems to be $42k in the US? How much is the Model Y? Or did ID4's price decrease to $42k recently?
- lotsofpulp 2y ago
  They added a new tier and dropped some and increased some. https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/vw-ditches-base-2025-id-4-for-now-meaning-starting-price-is-increased-by-5360/ https://www.carscoops.com/2025/02/vw-ditches-base-2025-id-4-... I was comparing a 3 row model Y AWD with tow hitch to AWD Pro ID.4 and ID.4 was coming in close to $50k, both with the federal tax credit. And the ID.4 lacked the 3rd row seating. I am also biased against European vehicles because I assume they will be more maintenance/expensive. I had a bunch of people recommend Model Y to me, and I trusted Tesla's electric vehicle making experience more than VW.

speedgoose 2y ago

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blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

I would be shocked if ID4 had comparable driver assistance features. Even Audis are pretty shaky and unreliable. Tesla’s seem to be a few generations ahead

seb1204 2y ago

Even a current Toyota Corolla has lane assistance but turning it on, settings etc are just better at the Tesla model 3 I drive. Lane keeping is good, haptic and audio feedback are good. The Toyota has haptic steering wheel feedback that I have not figured out yet, it steers but also leaves the lane. The Toyota chirms/acoustic sounds appear to me not used consistently across different functions, sound too similar or not warning enough. Admittedly this can all be personal choice and getting used to.