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But I don't understand your point. Since Russia started the war, how does it depend on Zelensky "to end this madness"? You'd prefer the Ukrainians roll over an

by prmph 2y ago

But I don't understand your point. Since Russia started the war, how does it depend on Zelensky "to end this madness"? You'd prefer the Ukrainians roll over and get massacred and genocided? Is black white, and white black, now? Please explain

ty6853 2y ago
No, I'd prefer they sign a cease fire, which is what Trump was trying to get Zelensky to do until Zelensky decided he doesn't need us anymore. The angry teenager has left the house with $5 and will be back when he smokes it all up and gets hungry. The fact is peace is a negotiation, and Ukraine will have to give up things. It will leave a bad taste in Zelensky's mouth and he will probably look like, for lack of a better word, a bitch, but unfortunately that's what's needed. They're going to have to call uncle on some territory they won't get back anyway, otherwise they have nothing on the table. His legacy will be to tarnish his image to save his countrymen, a tough spot no doubt.
- prmph 2y ago
  Why don't you put the blame where it belongs, and tell Putin to go back to his country? Per Occam's razor that should be the simplest solution, no? Otherwise, should Europe keep giving up territory whenever the Russians roll in?
  - ty6853 2y ago
    Putin is a bad boy, he should go home! Happy? Occam's razor is not a law. We live in reality. 'Europe' still doesn't have kaliningrad back. Justice is a tool, not a suicide pact.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  Putin said again today he has no interest in a ceasefire. But 'Zelensky'. Sure.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    Citation?
    - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
      https://tass.ru/politika/23325211 https://tass.ru/politika/23325211 Also: Russian leader Vladimir Putin and other Kremlin officials explicitly rejected making any concessions in future peace negotiations or accepting any US, European, or Ukrainian peace proposals and the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs rejected the possibility of a negotiated ceasefire on 6 March. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-6-2025 https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offens...

by prmph 2y ago

ty6853 2y ago

No, I'd prefer they sign a cease fire, which is what Trump was trying to get Zelensky to do until Zelensky decided he doesn't need us anymore. The angry teenager has left the house with $5 and will be back when he smokes it all up and gets hungry. The fact is peace is a negotiation, and Ukraine will have to give up things. It will leave a bad taste in Zelensky's mouth and he will probably look like, for lack of a better word, a bitch, but unfortunately that's what's needed. They're going to have to call uncle on some territory they won't get back anyway, otherwise they have nothing on the table. His legacy will be to tarnish his image to save his countrymen, a tough spot no doubt.

prmph 2y ago
Why don't you put the blame where it belongs, and tell Putin to go back to his country? Per Occam's razor that should be the simplest solution, no? Otherwise, should Europe keep giving up territory whenever the Russians roll in?
- ty6853 2y ago
  Putin is a bad boy, he should go home! Happy? Occam's razor is not a law. We live in reality. 'Europe' still doesn't have kaliningrad back. Justice is a tool, not a suicide pact.
_DeadFred_ 2y ago
Putin said again today he has no interest in a ceasefire. But 'Zelensky'. Sure.
- ty6853 2y ago
  Citation?
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    https://tass.ru/politika/23325211 https://tass.ru/politika/23325211 Also: Russian leader Vladimir Putin and other Kremlin officials explicitly rejected making any concessions in future peace negotiations or accepting any US, European, or Ukrainian peace proposals and the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs rejected the possibility of a negotiated ceasefire on 6 March. https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-6-2025 https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offens...