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Been using as my sole web browser on a daily basis since it was called Qupzilla, maybe for 10+ years as I switched to it from reKonq. I really like it because

Been using as my sole web browser on a daily basis since it was called Qupzilla, maybe for 10+ years as I switched to it from reKonq. I really like it because it's fully and truly integrated with KDE, not needed a whole sort of patchs to integrate to it like Firefox needs to. It's actually great. Not sure about the "Qt doesn't upgrade WebEngine often enough" in other comment (what is "ofteh enough"? I got several updates for it over the year) and of course it can be lagging from stuff from mainstream, but I think for 99% of users it's just fine. Granted, you can't use Chrome/Firefox plugins, which may it seem not worthy to some people, but there's a basic adblock and greasemonkey extensions shipped with it with default which blocks most of stuff and even you can install a script to speed up youtube ads so that annoying ad will run out in a sec or less. Apparently you can write your own plugins for it but last time I wrote to one of its devs the api wasn't even documented. There are some quirks on it, though, like the user agent thing - I set up as the latest chrome user agent for every website except accounts.google.com where I left it as the one shipped with Falkon so it lets me sign in, and yet it shows a warning about "upgrading" to another browser. Ironically, such "warning" also shows up when browsing discuss.kde.org. Yes, the very KDE discussion board warns you against using KDE's own web browser. Since some years ago I have a silly idea about a plugin that transforms tabs into some sort of Vim buffer list thing that can be filtered by the url bar, but am too incompetent about C++.

notpushkin 2y ago
> Granted, you can't use Chrome/Firefox plugins, which may it seem not worthy to some people Why is it granted? WebExtensions is an open spec, it is possible to implement it in any browser if needed. (Orion does this, although I think they don’t cover 100% of the features yet.) But an ad blocker and userscript support can take you long ways, yeah.
- Ontonator 2y ago
  Granted, as in “conceding a point”. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/granted https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/granted
kflgkans 2y ago
What does integrated with KDE mean? I use Firefox, but cannot imagine any type of integration that I really need.
- calvinmorrison 2y ago
  Native file pickers, widgets, settings system . Not sure if it also uses the kparts system for handling protocols
  - tetris11 2y ago
    Aren't these just handled with XDG libraries?
    - holowoodman 2y ago
      Not really. You can use XDG portals to have native dialogues in Firefox, but GTK developers call this an abuse of portals, so this will go away at some point. Portals are intended as a way out of sandboxes like flatpack, not to plug-and-play file picker dialogues.
      - rollcat 2y ago
        Wow, I'm not keeping up with all the new developments in the Linux desktop land, but that surely sounds like a step back. So let's say I'm building an app like Blender or Reaper - I'm sidestepping the need for most of the OS-specific/native-widget components, because I already need to do a whole lot of very complex and custom rendering, and that is the saner choice when going for portability. But I would still like to maintain a certain level of basic OS integration, for example a native menu bar on macOS, matching the light/dark theme with the OS, or perhaps... a native file picker? What are my choices on Linux? Link with Gtk, and make the app look out of place on KDE? Link with KDE, and pull in half of it with me when installed on Gnome? Link both? Summon Cthulhu?... Sounds like we've had a solution for a moment, and now we want to remove it, because think of the yaks?
userbinator 2y ago
and yet it shows a warning about "upgrading" to another browser. Ironically, such "warning" also shows up when browsing discuss.kde.org. Yes, the very KDE discussion board warns you against using KDE's own web browser. Such is the propaganda of Big G, that user-agent discrimination is actively encouraged to further Chrome's marketshare.

notpushkin 2y ago

> Granted, you can't use Chrome/Firefox plugins, which may it seem not worthy to some people Why is it granted? WebExtensions is an open spec, it is possible to implement it in any browser if needed. (Orion does this, although I think they don’t cover 100% of the features yet.) But an ad blocker and userscript support can take you long ways, yeah.

Ontonator 2y ago
Granted, as in “conceding a point”. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/granted https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/granted

kflgkans 2y ago

What does integrated with KDE mean? I use Firefox, but cannot imagine any type of integration that I really need.

calvinmorrison 2y ago
Native file pickers, widgets, settings system . Not sure if it also uses the kparts system for handling protocols
- tetris11 2y ago
  Aren't these just handled with XDG libraries?
  - holowoodman 2y ago
    Not really. You can use XDG portals to have native dialogues in Firefox, but GTK developers call this an abuse of portals, so this will go away at some point. Portals are intended as a way out of sandboxes like flatpack, not to plug-and-play file picker dialogues.
    - rollcat 2y ago
      Wow, I'm not keeping up with all the new developments in the Linux desktop land, but that surely sounds like a step back. So let's say I'm building an app like Blender or Reaper - I'm sidestepping the need for most of the OS-specific/native-widget components, because I already need to do a whole lot of very complex and custom rendering, and that is the saner choice when going for portability. But I would still like to maintain a certain level of basic OS integration, for example a native menu bar on macOS, matching the light/dark theme with the OS, or perhaps... a native file picker? What are my choices on Linux? Link with Gtk, and make the app look out of place on KDE? Link with KDE, and pull in half of it with me when installed on Gnome? Link both? Summon Cthulhu?... Sounds like we've had a solution for a moment, and now we want to remove it, because think of the yaks?

userbinator 2y ago

and yet it shows a warning about "upgrading" to another browser. Ironically, such "warning" also shows up when browsing discuss.kde.org. Yes, the very KDE discussion board warns you against using KDE's own web browser. Such is the propaganda of Big G, that user-agent discrimination is actively encouraged to further Chrome's marketshare.