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I keep wondering why people on HN use Chrome at all three days. There was a couple of years when people posted demos that only worked in IE^H Chrome but right

I keep wondering why people on HN use Chrome at all three days. There was a couple of years when people posted demos that only worked in IE^H Chrome but right now everything I need works in Firefox and I don't even see demos that need Chrome anymore.

imcritic 2y ago
Because Mozilla is as evil as google is and their browser is generally worse than chrome on average. We are now just entering a timeline where chrome nose dives on that comparison chart of "who is better?" with compared to Firefox.
- stanac 2y ago
  I won't go into whether FF is worse than chrome, but why do you think Mozilla is as evil as google?
  - withinboredom 2y ago
    I don't know why they particularly think that. But Mozilla developed a way to uniquely track people without their consent or knowledge. I am not ok with that and that is evil to me.
    - alt227 2y ago
      But you can still turn it off in the settings right? I dont think theres anywhere in google chrome that you can turn off tracking telemetry to google.
    - nickjj 2y ago
      > But Mozilla developed a way to uniquely track people without their consent or knowledge. Which setting is that, DNS over HTTPS? I switched back to Firefox the other day and this setting was enabled by default but it wasn't done silently. When you first launch Firefox a popup comes up saying it's going to be enabled but you have options to turn it off on the spot or click a link to learn more.
      - stanac 2y ago
        It's double edged sword. You have to use DNS either way. Everyone should decide for themselves which DNS to use.
- garbagewoman 2y ago
  not sure about all that but we are certainly in a timeline where nuance isn't valued
Hamuko 2y ago
I keep Chrome as a work browser but use Firefox otherwise. I'm not even affected by the V2 manifest removal because I don't keep an adblocker on Chrome.
lucumo 2y ago
For me: because Chrome is the only browser with worry-free sync. Firefox's sync for example doesn't sync extension settings, search engines and it fails on Android multiple times per day, with the only solution to logout and login again.
- williamoforange 2y ago
  Huh, I use FF sync across multiple devices and with extensions, on android etc... never had that issue, my only hitch can be the sync can take a bit for passwords and can't be manually initiated as far as i can tell. Might be the extensions you are using or how cookies are being handled perhaps?
- Zak 2y ago
  > Firefox's sync for example doesn't sync extension settings, search engines and it fails on Android multiple times per day Chrome for Android doesn't support extensions at all, so I'm a bit confused as to how that's a better experience for you.
  - lucumo 2y ago
    It's not a difficult puzzle: I find an always working and worry-free sync of open tabs more important than having extensions on mobile. I'd like to have those too, but right now I have to choose.
- int_19h 2y ago
  Vivaldi sync works like clockwork for me across Windows/Linux/Mac/iOS/Android after their last major update in this department.
  - lucumo 2y ago
    I loved Vivaldi's configurability. But it's sync is slightly moody as well. It can fail for a while. Though it is better than Firefox's in that it fixes itself. But Vivaldi doesn't support bookmarklets and I use those a lot.

imcritic 2y ago

Because Mozilla is as evil as google is and their browser is generally worse than chrome on average. We are now just entering a timeline where chrome nose dives on that comparison chart of "who is better?" with compared to Firefox.

stanac 2y ago
I won't go into whether FF is worse than chrome, but why do you think Mozilla is as evil as google?
- withinboredom 2y ago
  I don't know why they particularly think that. But Mozilla developed a way to uniquely track people without their consent or knowledge. I am not ok with that and that is evil to me.
  - alt227 2y ago
    But you can still turn it off in the settings right? I dont think theres anywhere in google chrome that you can turn off tracking telemetry to google.
  - nickjj 2y ago
    > But Mozilla developed a way to uniquely track people without their consent or knowledge. Which setting is that, DNS over HTTPS? I switched back to Firefox the other day and this setting was enabled by default but it wasn't done silently. When you first launch Firefox a popup comes up saying it's going to be enabled but you have options to turn it off on the spot or click a link to learn more.
    - stanac 2y ago
      It's double edged sword. You have to use DNS either way. Everyone should decide for themselves which DNS to use.
garbagewoman 2y ago
not sure about all that but we are certainly in a timeline where nuance isn't valued

Hamuko 2y ago

I keep Chrome as a work browser but use Firefox otherwise. I'm not even affected by the V2 manifest removal because I don't keep an adblocker on Chrome.

lucumo 2y ago

For me: because Chrome is the only browser with worry-free sync. Firefox's sync for example doesn't sync extension settings, search engines and it fails on Android multiple times per day, with the only solution to logout and login again.

williamoforange 2y ago
Huh, I use FF sync across multiple devices and with extensions, on android etc... never had that issue, my only hitch can be the sync can take a bit for passwords and can't be manually initiated as far as i can tell. Might be the extensions you are using or how cookies are being handled perhaps?
Zak 2y ago
> Firefox's sync for example doesn't sync extension settings, search engines and it fails on Android multiple times per day Chrome for Android doesn't support extensions at all, so I'm a bit confused as to how that's a better experience for you.
- lucumo 2y ago
  It's not a difficult puzzle: I find an always working and worry-free sync of open tabs more important than having extensions on mobile. I'd like to have those too, but right now I have to choose.
int_19h 2y ago
Vivaldi sync works like clockwork for me across Windows/Linux/Mac/iOS/Android after their last major update in this department.
- lucumo 2y ago
  I loved Vivaldi's configurability. But it's sync is slightly moody as well. It can fail for a while. Though it is better than Firefox's in that it fixes itself. But Vivaldi doesn't support bookmarklets and I use those a lot.