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I made a decision about 13 or 14 years ago to not drink my calories and it took another 11 years to actually cease all liquid calories - booze has a lot. I do

I made a decision about 13 or 14 years ago to not drink my calories and it took another 11 years to actually cease all liquid calories - booze has a lot. I do put a splash of heavy cream in my coffee, otherwise I wouldn't drink coffee at all, as unsweet iced tea is a more palatable flavor to me. But I don't like hot tea or cold coffee. I understand cream has calories, but I have to take a small bit of fat to allow certain medicines to work, am I only have coffee a few times a week. Like 3 "cups" a week. Peanut butter, before anyone wonders.

jimbob45 2y ago
Same and within the same timeframe. It occurred to me that eating calories is a lot harder than drinking them so I made up a diet of the only liquid being water and no desserts. I’ve since refined it but the base idea was reasonably effective.
__turbobrew__ 2y ago
Same, I no longer drink any calories outside of exceptional cases such as supplements when running long distances. Black coffee and water are the only things I drink. Haven't drank alcohol in a while either. Not only is giant sugar spikes bad for your glucose levels, I have seen several suggestions that high sugar levels increases the rates of cancer: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9775518/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9775518/ Concentrated sugar is a poison.
DidYaWipe 2y ago
Try better coffee. Seriously. Get LIGHT-roast beans, grind them yourself, and get a Chemex. Dark-roasted coffee is shitty beans that are burned to cover up their poor quality: https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-starbucks-tastes-bitter-and-burned-b4ab8ab81919 https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-...
- globular-toast 2y ago
  This. I would also consider a V60. Note the grinder is the most important bit and should set you back at least 10x as much as the brewer. Note also that pour over coffee is a skill and it will take a while to learn to brew nice coffee that can be (should be) enjoyed black. Also, if you buy "speciality" beans then their highest level of roast is still lighter than what Starbucks would call "light".
  - DidYaWipe 2y ago
    Definitely. A good grinder is essential, otherwise you can't even get repeatable results. I have the Baratza Virtuoso and it has been rock-solid for years. I've never even cleaned it...
- genewitch 2y ago
  I have tried so many coffees. I have a 25 bar espresso machine (15 bar? i forget), a bunn commercial vacuum-flask machine, a generic k-cup and a french press. I've done cold brew myself, many many times. I've had every brew at CB&TL, starbucks, The Human Bean, Dutch Bros coffee co. I've tried most brands and most roasts. I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y. I just really like tea, more. PG Tips, Uncle Lee's green, tisanes of all descriptions. It's more "refreshing" to me. Personal preference. also i noted the reason i don't mind the cream, other than it's delicious - i need literal fat for certain medications. If i don't have coffee a couple hours after getting up, i'll eat a tablespoon of peanut butter for the same result.
  - newdee 2y ago
    > I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y. As I understand it, the darker the roast the more caffeine has been “burnt” off, so this would explain what you’re describing.
    - genewitch 2y ago
      Right, however, apparently the light roasts i have tried are darker than the darkest roasts of ... whatever supplier someone else uses. It's weird that i feel like we're talking about illicit drugs.
  - DidYaWipe 2y ago
    You're not wrong; light roast is reportedly higher in caffeine. What I find interesting is that pour-over produces such better results than a drip coffee maker, which seems to be doing essentially the same thing. I guess having the grounds totally submerged makes that much difference. I'm sure someone has rigged up a microcontroller-based automated pour-overer.
- alpaca128 2y ago
  Some people simply do not like the flavor of pure coffee, no matter how much others enjoy it.

jimbob45 2y ago

Same and within the same timeframe. It occurred to me that eating calories is a lot harder than drinking them so I made up a diet of the only liquid being water and no desserts. I’ve since refined it but the base idea was reasonably effective.

__turbobrew__ 2y ago

Same, I no longer drink any calories outside of exceptional cases such as supplements when running long distances. Black coffee and water are the only things I drink. Haven't drank alcohol in a while either. Not only is giant sugar spikes bad for your glucose levels, I have seen several suggestions that high sugar levels increases the rates of cancer: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9775518/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9775518/ Concentrated sugar is a poison.

DidYaWipe 2y ago

Try better coffee. Seriously. Get LIGHT-roast beans, grind them yourself, and get a Chemex. Dark-roasted coffee is shitty beans that are burned to cover up their poor quality: https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-starbucks-tastes-bitter-and-burned-b4ab8ab81919 https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-...

globular-toast 2y ago
This. I would also consider a V60. Note the grinder is the most important bit and should set you back at least 10x as much as the brewer. Note also that pour over coffee is a skill and it will take a while to learn to brew nice coffee that can be (should be) enjoyed black. Also, if you buy "speciality" beans then their highest level of roast is still lighter than what Starbucks would call "light".
- DidYaWipe 2y ago
  Definitely. A good grinder is essential, otherwise you can't even get repeatable results. I have the Baratza Virtuoso and it has been rock-solid for years. I've never even cleaned it...
genewitch 2y ago
I have tried so many coffees. I have a 25 bar espresso machine (15 bar? i forget), a bunn commercial vacuum-flask machine, a generic k-cup and a french press. I've done cold brew myself, many many times. I've had every brew at CB&TL, starbucks, The Human Bean, Dutch Bros coffee co. I've tried most brands and most roasts. I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y. I just really like tea, more. PG Tips, Uncle Lee's green, tisanes of all descriptions. It's more "refreshing" to me. Personal preference. also i noted the reason i don't mind the cream, other than it's delicious - i need literal fat for certain medications. If i don't have coffee a couple hours after getting up, i'll eat a tablespoon of peanut butter for the same result.
- newdee 2y ago
  > I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y. As I understand it, the darker the roast the more caffeine has been “burnt” off, so this would explain what you’re describing.
  - genewitch 2y ago
    Right, however, apparently the light roasts i have tried are darker than the darkest roasts of ... whatever supplier someone else uses. It's weird that i feel like we're talking about illicit drugs.
- DidYaWipe 2y ago
  You're not wrong; light roast is reportedly higher in caffeine. What I find interesting is that pour-over produces such better results than a drip coffee maker, which seems to be doing essentially the same thing. I guess having the grounds totally submerged makes that much difference. I'm sure someone has rigged up a microcontroller-based automated pour-overer.
alpaca128 2y ago
Some people simply do not like the flavor of pure coffee, no matter how much others enjoy it.