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I’ve heard this argument and seen the pearl clutching about every Internet bill that has ever been considered. They whip Internet activists into a frenzy. None
by 7e 2y ago
I’ve heard this argument and seen the pearl clutching about every Internet bill that has ever been considered. They whip Internet activists into a frenzy. None of it has borne out once the bills have become law. It’s Chicken Little every time.
- blackqueeriroh 2y agoYou’re absolutely incorrect. Would you like to know the impacts of the previous bills that passed? You probably wouldn’t know.
- 7e 2y agoThe CDA, COPPA, DMCA, GDPR and copyright directives were all predicted (hysterically) to destroy the Internet. Oops, it still exists.
- hiddencost 2y agoQuestionable.
- 7e 2y agoLow effort responses are disregardable.
- Seattle3503 2y agoThose laws have re-shaped the entire internet.
- 7e 2y agoLaws are designed to have an effect, that is their purpose. However, the changes did not live up to the hysteria. Most of the doomsday predictions were so embarrassing in retrospect that the original articles have since been taken down.
- loeg 2y agoThe GDPR has had huge and shitty impact on the entire internet. It's night and day with cookie banners on every website. DMCA has pros and cons. But it's clear the lack of real penalties for bogus copyright notifications leads to abuse.
- bee_rider 2y agoThe cookie banners aren’t mandated by the GDPR, they are malicious sites’ response to the GDPR.
- yellow_postit 2y agoThey were/are and entirely predictable response. The broader issue with GDPR is the benefit it gives incumbents over startups.
- bee_rider 2y agoIt might not be the best result, but at least the bad sites are identifying themselves.
- p3rls 2y agoLol, when GDPR came out one of our euro devs was threatening to walk out if we didn't put a banner up because he thought he'd be personally fined. Now it's obvious of course.
- loeg 2y agoWhere did I claim cookie banners were mandated by the GDPR? I don't think this is responsive to my comment.
- JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 2y agoThe GDPR is unrelated to the internet. It is very deep and protects my personal information in every company. Please educate yourself.
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- bee_rider 2y agoThe DMCA is pretty terrible. GDPR is fine. The only annoying thing about it is the petulant malicious compliance banners that some sites started using in response. Unfortunately it didn’t destroy the ad/tracking based internet, but that was probably too optimistic.
- mattmaroon 2y agoI don't know who said "destroy" but COPPA and the DMCA have had a lot of negative effects. And some positive ones too, but it's hard to argue they succeed in their objectives at all really, and easy to see the harms.
- 00__00 2y agoThey didn't destroy the internet, but they did embolden the platforms at the cost of smaller players, who couldn't step up
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- 8474_s 2y agoDMCA alone reshaped the internet, with DMCA copyright notices becoming a shady industry of supression and fear. GDPR is the source of all those "mandatory cookie consent" banners that Firefox now has builtin features to detect them. COPPA besides making websites either ban children or become "family-friendly", led to this corporate scheme: `A small fee was charged by Microsoft under COPPA as a way to verify parental consent. The fee was donated to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.[48] Google, however, charges a small fee as a way to verify one's date of birth. `( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Online_Privacy_Protection_Act#cite_note-48 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Online_Privacy_Prot... ) CDA and its derivatives, striped much of section 230 protections: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Decency_Act#Section_230 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Decency_Act#Sec...
- Panzer04 2y agoThere's another circumstance where people were calling out threats and mostly no one cared - the recent presidential election. it's difficult to argue nothing will change when on occasion it does.
- guelo 2y agonothing ever happens