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Somewhat related post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42625193 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42625193 It seems like having sugary drinks is not ju
by sky2224 2y ago
Somewhat related post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42625193 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42625193
It seems like having sugary drinks is not just bad for you, but like really bad for you.
- butterlettuce 2y ago40g of sugar in one can of soda is pancreatic terrorism. I always wonder why I see “quit smoking” PSAs on TV, but not for sugar bombs like soda or even Starbucks fraps.
- alliao 2y agomy go to drink for pancreatic terrorism as of late is Dunkin Donut's Caramel Creme Frozen Coffee - Large at 172g of sugar per serving
- jonpalmisc 2y agoI can't believe it's even legal to sell those. That seems simply insane.
- voidfunc 2y agoYour body, your choice. At least with cigarettes there was a public nuisance argument because of the smell and also the secondhand effect. I dont find general public health a compelling argument for restricting sugar.
- ekianjo 2y agoYou don't need to restrict it. Just educate people about its effect. That's the least you can do
- setnone 2y agoI'm with you here, those white organic powders should have no restrictions whatsoever.
- xethos 2y agoThat's semi-reasonable in America, but less so in any country with single-payer health care. Like smoking, there are serious effects later in life that cost money to treat; this makes for a compelling case for a sin tax IMO, like we have for tobacco and liquor here in Canada.
- billfor 2y agoWon’t the smokers die earlier and save the government old age benefits?
- Faaak 2y agoCancer costs a lot. And surgeries, and palliative measures for people with bpco, etc..
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- epicureanideal 2y agoSo if we vote for a single payer healthcare system, we get a back door for government tyranny over every little aspect of our lives that they decide is bad for us, including as the science shifts? Don’t eat eggs or you lose your coverage, no wait, eat 3 eggs a week or you lose your coverage, no wait.. Sounds like a bad deal, and most Americans will take freedom over free health care if that’s the cost.
- tornadofart 2y agoIt doesn't work like that. In a single payer system, the government is mandated to provide you with health care, since you are paying for it with your taxes (or would be if your income was high enough), no exceptions. Typical tools of such governments include: - taxes on products which are deemed of danger to public health, for example taxes on cigarettes in the EU. The government is then mandated to invest these taxes into the health care system - public health campaigns (ads etc.) - age restrictions, as they exist on alcohol in the US. Legislation shifts to represent newest advances in science, yes. That's not per se a bad thing. Not every country with a single-payer system is an authoritarian communist hellscape, you know.
- baq 2y ago> Your body, your choice. Corporate profits. They want you to get addicted for recurring revenue.
- hilux 2y agoMy best guess, and I've thought about this a lot, is that chronic illness drives billions of dollars of direct economic activity. Of course, illness has an even larger cost to society and to overall happiness, but that's much less measurable, and therefore has less effect on public policy.
- setnone 2y agoThis is levels above terrorism. Remember the good times when it was sold as prescription drug in pharmacies?
- OhioMan2943 2y agoInteresting, I'm more partial to the white castle large strawberry shake at 178g of sugar per serving. I find it really covers the recommended american intake of 24g of sugar per day.
- pimeys 2y agoIt is a crazy amount of carbs. As a type 1 diabetic pizza is typically one of the trickiest foods to compensate with insulin. And that is only about 100 grams of carbs. That thing is almost double. And in pure sugar form...
- sgt 2y agoHow much is a donut? I think Elon Musk says he eats quite a few through the day. Yet he's healthy as an old race horse.
- ForTheKidz 2y agoI thought the bad part about donuts was the being fried part
- occz 2y agoWhat evidence is there to support the claim that Elon Musk is "healthy as an old race horse"?
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- ahoka 2y agoWell with the proposed cut of Medicaid the problem will solve itself. It will be harder to go to Dunkin Donuts without legs.
- ekianjo 2y agoBig sugar
- globular-toast 2y agoWe haven't come to generally accept food as an addiction yet. We still talk about obesity (a symptom) and not food addiction (the problem). It would be like saying lung cancer is a problem but only very vaguely hinting that you might want to cut down on the smoking.
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- genewitch 2y agoI made a decision about 13 or 14 years ago to not drink my calories and it took another 11 years to actually cease all liquid calories - booze has a lot. I do put a splash of heavy cream in my coffee, otherwise I wouldn't drink coffee at all, as unsweet iced tea is a more palatable flavor to me. But I don't like hot tea or cold coffee. I understand cream has calories, but I have to take a small bit of fat to allow certain medicines to work, am I only have coffee a few times a week. Like 3 "cups" a week. Peanut butter, before anyone wonders.
- jimbob45 2y agoSame and within the same timeframe. It occurred to me that eating calories is a lot harder than drinking them so I made up a diet of the only liquid being water and no desserts. I’ve since refined it but the base idea was reasonably effective.
- __turbobrew__ 2y agoSame, I no longer drink any calories outside of exceptional cases such as supplements when running long distances. Black coffee and water are the only things I drink. Haven't drank alcohol in a while either. Not only is giant sugar spikes bad for your glucose levels, I have seen several suggestions that high sugar levels increases the rates of cancer: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9775518/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9775518/ Concentrated sugar is a poison.
- DidYaWipe 2y agoTry better coffee. Seriously. Get LIGHT-roast beans, grind them yourself, and get a Chemex. Dark-roasted coffee is shitty beans that are burned to cover up their poor quality: https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-starbucks-tastes-bitter-and-burned-b4ab8ab81919 https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-...
- globular-toast 2y agoThis. I would also consider a V60. Note the grinder is the most important bit and should set you back at least 10x as much as the brewer. Note also that pour over coffee is a skill and it will take a while to learn to brew nice coffee that can be (should be) enjoyed black. Also, if you buy "speciality" beans then their highest level of roast is still lighter than what Starbucks would call "light".