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Doesn't really seem related at all to be honest. Tesla FSD is vaporware.
by femiagbabiaka 2y ago
Doesn't really seem related at all to be honest. Tesla FSD is vaporware.
- Dig1t 2y ago[flagged]
- uejfiweun 2y agoI'm glad you've had good experiences with it. The experiences I've had are not great, to say the least. I rode in my friend's Model Y over the holidays and it drove slower than all other cars on the road to an unsafe level, nearly rear ended a car, and came to a full stop at a green light twice. For me personally, I just don't really trust it.
- dylan604 2y agoSounds like two totally different driving situations and the results are about what I'd expect: highway driving vs city driving.
- haliskerbas 2y agoExcept with Waymo I don’t really have to care it just works? And that’s the whole point why one feels ahead of the other from the usability standpoint.
- uejfiweun 2y agoHow could you possibly glean that from my comment? It was both city and highway driving.
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- __loam 2y agoI know a lot of people in the AV space. Tesla and their camera only approach is a joke in the space. They're years behind other players.
- iknowstuff 2y agoThis is the definitive indicator we needed. Company insiders have never unfairly denigrated a competitor.
- __loam 2y agoIt's a bit different when insiders at every other company in your industry refuse to get in vehicles using your software because they know how unsafe it is.
- iknowstuff 2y agoWhat did you hear them say about Cruise lol That was a janky ass experience every time I rode them.
- __loam 2y agoThere wasn't a lot of surprise when they had that accident.
- Frederation 2y agoNah, Waymo is waymo far ahead in this area. Tesla is just a devisive brand owned by a moron.
- Frederation 2y ago[flagged]
- anonym29 2y agoProtip: you might want to spell 'divisive' correctly if you're going to hurl that insult at the same person you're calling a moron.
- ra7 2y agoAs long as it needs active driver supervision, it’s not “completely autonomous”. Even Tesla doesn’t think so, which is why they have this disclaimer on their product page: > Autopilot and Full Self-Driving (Supervised) are intended for use with a fully attentive driver, who has their hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment. While these features are designed to become more capable over time, the currently enabled features do not make the vehicle autonomous.
- theoreticalmal 2y agoIs that really your criteria for “vaporware”?
- ra7 2y agoTesla promised unsupervised self driving for all existing cars that can drive anywhere and promised 1 million robotaxis by 2020. Neither of them exist. That sounds like vaporware to me.
- rogerrogerr 2y agoThis is kind of a drive-by (hah!) comment; sorry. I think it's important to inject this fact into HN discussions of Tesla FSD: As someone who has, uses, enjoys, and is often impressed with FSD, it is painful to participate in these discussions. There is an intense feeling of cognitive dissonance between seeing smart people, who I generally respect, decrying FSD without restraint... and then going and getting in my own car, tapping a destination, and not touching anything until I'm in the Costco parking lot. I don't want to fight about it, I just want to throw it out there that there is _at least one_ person having enjoyable, safe, and consistent experiences on FSD 12.x (HW3) - and who does not usually participate in these conversations. By all means, vigorously discuss drawbacks of a vision only system (they exist!), but understand that the abrasiveness of these conversations does drive people away from sharing their own lived experiences.
- femiagbabiaka 2y agoI'm glad you're enjoying your car. Part of the problem is lack of specificity, so I'll be clearer: Tesla will not ship fully unsupervised FSD[1], or, by extension, fully autonomous and unsupervised robotaxis, this year, or next year, or any time soon. 1: which is the claim and how Tesla describes FSD, to be clear, not semi-autonomous driving, which is what you have