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Measles outbreak in Texas and New Mexico now 208 cases, 2 deaths
- duxup 2y agoIf this was something that just hurt people who made bad choices I wouldn’t mind this so much. There’s also science showing catching Measles erases past immunity from other diseases, meaning just these deaths and illnesses directly from measles may not be the only ones.
- golemiprague 2y ago[dead]
- jameskilton 2y agohttps://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-...
- BLKNSLVR 2y agoVery interesting read, thank you.
- chneu 2y agoThere isn't "some indication". Measles wipes out the immune system protections that have been created from the womb/early development. People who contract measles suffer from illness at a much higher rate than people who do not contract measles.
- duxup 2y agoYeah I probably should have worded that way stronger. Fixed.
- 7e 2y agoNo vaccine is 100% effective, so these outbreaks also hurt people who have made good choices, albeit at a much lower rate.
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- thrance 2y agoAs per your US Health Secretary, a few vitamin pills ought to do the trick [1]. Out of your own pocket, of course: Medicaid and Medicare are on borrowed times. Not too unlike the anti-vaxxers that contracted this then-eradicated terrible disease. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/04/rfk-jr-vitamins-measles-outbreak https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/04/rfk-jr-vitam...
- hoofedear 2y ago“The _term goes here_ describes how successful protective measures like vaccines or pasteurization become victims of their own effectiveness. As these interventions eliminate visible threats over time, people forget the dangers they prevent, leading to skepticism about their necessity. This creates cyclical patterns where protective measures are abandoned, threats resurface, urgency is renewed, protection is restored, and eventually skepticism returns once the threat again fades from memory. “ I tried to ask Claude for a term that goes with that description but it used “prevention paradox” which describes something else
- thrance 2y agoIncurability forgetfulness?
- tfehring 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preparedness_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preparedness_paradox
- VOIPThrowaway 2y agoWe're about to do that with Daylight Savings. We nuked it in 1970 and came crawling back the next year. Futzing with the clocks is annoying, but apparently it's better.
- rKarpinski 2y agoFor context Measles has (by unforced error) been a problem in the US for years generally with with much less discussion. 2024: 285 Measles cases (primarily in Minnesota and Illinois) 2019: 1,274 Measles cases 2018: 381 Measles cases 2014: 667 Measles cases 2000: 85 Measles cases 2000: "Elimination declared!" https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html
- ggm 2y ago"Unforced error" is a great way of describing the consequences of anti vaxx.
- atmavatar 2y agoHow much discussion you've seen may be largely dependent upon the circles you frequent. I certainly recall news stories and discussion for each of the large breakouts over the years, even from back when the anti-vaxx movement was a fringe left rather than mainstream right movement. It shouldn't be surprising that there's more discussion now, however, given the current head of the HHS is not only an anti-vaxx advocate but also known for his role in the 2019 outbreak of measles in Samoa.
- chneu 2y agoI'm curious when a child is going to sue their parents for neglect over not vaccinating. I've looked a few times and can't find any cases or news articles about it. I'm specifically talking about a child, not an institution or whatnot.
- duxup 2y agoI’m not sure a child would have that option in the US as parents are legally allowed to make those decisions.
- aaplok 2y agoIsn't the question whether that also makes them legally responsible for their consequences? If they were not legally allowed then it would be possible to sue them even if there were no consequences. There have to be consequences to be able to sue for a legally allowed decision.
- chneu 2y agoThis is the kind of logic that stopped a lot of anti-gun lawsuits from taking place. All it takes is a shift in societal thinking for something like this to gain traction.
- Freedom2 2y ago[flagged]
- quantified 2y agoIt may cause reactions. Almost anything could cause problems. The frequency and severity of problems from it compared to the frequency and severity of problems without it is compelling though.
- quantified 2y agoFunny how the need to protect religion from science is so strong.