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You are trying to combine two repelling magnets together. Case in point: Tesla/SpaceX meets your first criteria: "I want a tech company where people are there

You are trying to combine two repelling magnets together. Case in point: Tesla/SpaceX meets your first criteria: "I want a tech company where people are there to make good products first and get paid second." Google meets your second criteria: "And the pay should be good. The lifestyle comfortable. No grindset bullshit." Other than small time boutique software firms like Fog Creek Software or Panic Inc(and thats a BIG maybe) you are not going to get this part of your message: "But I am confident that if you only employ passionate people working their dream jobs you will excel." There are tradeoffs in life and each employee has to choose what is important to them(and each company CEO has to set standards on what is truly valued at the company).

scarface_74 2y ago
> Case in point: Tesla/SpaceX meets your first criteria: "I want a tech company where people are there to make good products first and get paid second Tesla has never been a good product. https://insideevs.com/news/731559/tesla-least-reliable-used-car-brands/ https://insideevs.com/news/731559/tesla-least-reliable-used-... https://www.carscoops.com/2024/11/tesla-model-3-comes-bottom-in-german-tuv-reliability-test-again/ https://www.carscoops.com/2024/11/tesla-model-3-comes-bottom... https://www.topspeed.com/tesla-reliability-and-repair-costs-the-true-story/ https://www.topspeed.com/tesla-reliability-and-repair-costs-... Not to mention the infotainment system is much worse than CarPlay/Android Auto compatible cars
- bdangubic 2y ago
  Teslas are consistently rated high in customer satisfaction, but after several years of low ratings from top authorities in the industry, their reliability is undoubtedly in question. This is too funny to post alongside saying “Tesla has never been a good product.” Like “everyone that bought it loves it be car expert Joe from South Dakota ranks them very low.” Common sense also runs very much against this nonsense narrative - you just simply do not sell that many cars, at those prices especially, year after year after year, if the product is subpar. Don’t fall for this “experts” bullshit. The CEO is the biggest tool this Earth has ever seen but cars are awesome
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    You did see the link quoted from consumer reports? Are they not a reliable source? On another note, Apple also sold millions of MacBooks with butterfly keyboards. And Tesla sells are declining, losing market share worldwide and sells 1/5 the number of cars as Toyota
    - bdangubic 2y ago
      customers are the only reliable source, “experts” trying to sell ads/paper are not. and if you gonna compare tesla to toyota you should compare number of EV sales, not overall sales :) tesla is not a car company, it is (among other things if you care to believe Elon bullshit) EV car company. comparing toyota to tesla in terms of total sales is like saying “subway doesn’t sell nearly as many bigmacs as mcdonald’s does” :)

scarface_74 2y ago

> Case in point: Tesla/SpaceX meets your first criteria: "I want a tech company where people are there to make good products first and get paid second Tesla has never been a good product. https://insideevs.com/news/731559/tesla-least-reliable-used-car-brands/ https://insideevs.com/news/731559/tesla-least-reliable-used-... https://www.carscoops.com/2024/11/tesla-model-3-comes-bottom-in-german-tuv-reliability-test-again/ https://www.carscoops.com/2024/11/tesla-model-3-comes-bottom... https://www.topspeed.com/tesla-reliability-and-repair-costs-the-true-story/ https://www.topspeed.com/tesla-reliability-and-repair-costs-... Not to mention the infotainment system is much worse than CarPlay/Android Auto compatible cars

bdangubic 2y ago
Teslas are consistently rated high in customer satisfaction, but after several years of low ratings from top authorities in the industry, their reliability is undoubtedly in question. This is too funny to post alongside saying “Tesla has never been a good product.” Like “everyone that bought it loves it be car expert Joe from South Dakota ranks them very low.” Common sense also runs very much against this nonsense narrative - you just simply do not sell that many cars, at those prices especially, year after year after year, if the product is subpar. Don’t fall for this “experts” bullshit. The CEO is the biggest tool this Earth has ever seen but cars are awesome
- scarface_74 2y ago
  You did see the link quoted from consumer reports? Are they not a reliable source? On another note, Apple also sold millions of MacBooks with butterfly keyboards. And Tesla sells are declining, losing market share worldwide and sells 1/5 the number of cars as Toyota
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    customers are the only reliable source, “experts” trying to sell ads/paper are not. and if you gonna compare tesla to toyota you should compare number of EV sales, not overall sales :) tesla is not a car company, it is (among other things if you care to believe Elon bullshit) EV car company. comparing toyota to tesla in terms of total sales is like saying “subway doesn’t sell nearly as many bigmacs as mcdonald’s does” :)