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Certainly not in the words produced by the Russian disinformation apparatus.

by xeckr 2y ago

gosub100 2y ago
Or on any major US news network
- xeckr 2y ago
  You have to be awake to the fact that there is absolutely no comparison to be made here.
  - gosub100 2y ago
    ever heard of the collateral murder video? Freedom of the press can be revoked at any time for any reason. When the Snowden documents were released, US media didn't cover it until foreign media did.
    - sepositus 2y ago
      The argument isn't that one is doing and the other isn't. It's the _degree_ that it's happening in each country. Given the tight control of the Kremlin on media, my gut says more stories break in the USA than Russia.
      - gosub100 2y ago
        RU are in war time, are they not? Remember what happened to Bill Maher when he said something uncouth when _our_ country was at war? If you want to say the penalties of saying uncouth things are more severe in RU, I'd agree with you. But then it's just a matter of which offenses. US will lock you up for decades for possession of marijuana. Even after it's "legalized", competing with businesses without a license is still severely punished: https://mynews4.com/news/local/traffic-stop-leads-to-889500-marijuana-bust-in-washoe-county# https://mynews4.com/news/local/traffic-stop-leads-to-889500-...
        sepositus 2y ago
        > Or on any major US news network I think we've lost the context here. The point was that, compared to Russia, our media has much more freedom to break stories. But, I'll admit, I've never lived in Russia. I only work with friends that have (previously) lived there. In our discussions, it's never really been a question that the Kremlin has much more control over the media than US administrations (despite their best effort, otherwise).
        xeckr 2y ago
        >US will lock you up for decades for possession of marijuana. Guess what happens in russia for the same? Not to mention that they will also lock you up and/or shove a bottle up your ass and/or kill you for any political action whatsoever challenging the Gremlin. >RU are in war time, are they not? Have you heard of what happened to Boris Nemtsov who dared to speak out about the fact that putin was grooming his country for war?

Certainly not in the words produced by the Russian disinformation apparatus.

by xeckr 2y ago

Certainly not in the words produced by the Russian disinformation apparatus.

gosub100 2y ago

Or on any major US news network

xeckr 2y ago
You have to be awake to the fact that there is absolutely no comparison to be made here.
- gosub100 2y ago
  ever heard of the collateral murder video? Freedom of the press can be revoked at any time for any reason. When the Snowden documents were released, US media didn't cover it until foreign media did.
  - sepositus 2y ago
    The argument isn't that one is doing and the other isn't. It's the _degree_ that it's happening in each country. Given the tight control of the Kremlin on media, my gut says more stories break in the USA than Russia.
    - gosub100 2y ago
      RU are in war time, are they not? Remember what happened to Bill Maher when he said something uncouth when _our_ country was at war? If you want to say the penalties of saying uncouth things are more severe in RU, I'd agree with you. But then it's just a matter of which offenses. US will lock you up for decades for possession of marijuana. Even after it's "legalized", competing with businesses without a license is still severely punished: https://mynews4.com/news/local/traffic-stop-leads-to-889500-marijuana-bust-in-washoe-county# https://mynews4.com/news/local/traffic-stop-leads-to-889500-...
      - sepositus 2y ago
        > Or on any major US news network I think we've lost the context here. The point was that, compared to Russia, our media has much more freedom to break stories. But, I'll admit, I've never lived in Russia. I only work with friends that have (previously) lived there. In our discussions, it's never really been a question that the Kremlin has much more control over the media than US administrations (despite their best effort, otherwise).
      - xeckr 2y ago
        >US will lock you up for decades for possession of marijuana. Guess what happens in russia for the same? Not to mention that they will also lock you up and/or shove a bottle up your ass and/or kill you for any political action whatsoever challenging the Gremlin. >RU are in war time, are they not? Have you heard of what happened to Boris Nemtsov who dared to speak out about the fact that putin was grooming his country for war?