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They no longer teach Rhetoric at schools. Rhetorical arguments have been completely forgotten and debased in the public mind. Rhetorical arguments are more imp
by GauntletWizard 2y ago
They no longer teach Rhetoric at schools. Rhetorical arguments have been completely forgotten and debased in the public mind.
Rhetorical arguments are more important than ever in the age of AI, because AI is our attempt to simulate that. Probabilistic AI mimics rhetoric (inexpertly). It uses past knowledge to predict future behavior (rather, just the next token) based on probability.
To be clear - I'm not arguing that logical argument aren't important; I am a logical person, and prefer logical arguments to rhetorical ones. I prefer the certainty. I still recognize the need for rhetoric. Not everything is certain, and you have to make decisions based on probabilities and unknowns.
- Der_Einzige 2y agoIf you saw what modern formal debate looked like in America, you’d be happy that we abandoned teaching it. Here’s the beginning of the rabbit hole you need to go down to understand why so many former debaters not only hate the activity but specifically cite it as an example of post-modern neo Marxism: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spreading_(debate) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spreading_(debate)