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They fired the people helping with automation, and the people with domain knowledge to enable automation. We know the hack and slash method leads to more corru

They fired the people helping with automation, and the people with domain knowledge to enable automation. We know the hack and slash method leads to more corruption and doesn't produce savings. The resources like 18f would have been critical for what you are describing above. 'Agentic AI' is still a pipe dream, context is still required for application of what we know it can do anyway. Nothing shows any inkling that DOGE has the appropriate SME's in place. If they do they better start communicating intent and proving themselves. Right now it seems that they are rank amateurs who are nothing more than an impediment to efficient, effective government.

ineedaj0b 2y ago
you bring up good points. but you should also keep in mind sometimes young kids who don't know any better often do a pretty good job. any attempt to 'do it right' is also meetings and panels and... more ways to slow down and avoid being removed. it's tough
- Llamamoe 2y ago
  > but you should also keep in mind sometimes young kids who don't know any better often do a pretty good job. At entry level positions in their field. Not at taking a damn axe to the internal workings of a government they know nothing about.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  > sometimes young kids who don't know any better often do a pretty good job. At greenfield projects. I'd love examples of where young kids who don't know any better have improved legacy systems already in production. The entire idea of 18F and USDS was that you needed to fuse {young talent} with {help navigating government requirements} to produce good outcomes. Take away the latter, and you end up with broken things. My $0.02: Elon and DOGE are being encouraged to be publicly excessive and will then be politically blamed for any negative outcomes in 2026 or '28, if things turn south.
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ineedaj0b 2y ago

you bring up good points. but you should also keep in mind sometimes young kids who don't know any better often do a pretty good job. any attempt to 'do it right' is also meetings and panels and... more ways to slow down and avoid being removed. it's tough

Llamamoe 2y ago
> but you should also keep in mind sometimes young kids who don't know any better often do a pretty good job. At entry level positions in their field. Not at taking a damn axe to the internal workings of a government they know nothing about.
ethbr1 2y ago
> sometimes young kids who don't know any better often do a pretty good job. At greenfield projects. I'd love examples of where young kids who don't know any better have improved legacy systems already in production. The entire idea of 18F and USDS was that you needed to fuse {young talent} with {help navigating government requirements} to produce good outcomes. Take away the latter, and you end up with broken things. My $0.02: Elon and DOGE are being encouraged to be publicly excessive and will then be politically blamed for any negative outcomes in 2026 or '28, if things turn south.
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