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> what about defining "lying" as "saying something that, if accepted, moves the believer away from the liar's worldmodel"? Then the definition becomes kinda-co
by Terr_ 2y ago
> what about defining "lying" as "saying something that, if accepted, moves the believer away from the liar's worldmodel"?
Then the definition becomes kinda-contradictory: The entity would sometimes tell the truth, because that would be the best choice to divert and ruin your model.
So "always lies in a simple way" would become more like "always unhelpful in a superintelligently evil way."
- schoen 2y agoIn some contexts in computer science and computer security, this is also called "answering adversarially".
- SilasX 2y agoThat wouldn’t make it contradictory, it would make “always lying” just as effective a strategy as in the original problem statements. It’s a general problem that “being known to always lie” makes (the goals of) deception harder, and my definition just preserves that problem.