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To me, this article looks like a psyop designed to make people ignore any response from language models that may reflect a Russian point of view. This article i
by basfo 2y ago
To me, this article looks like a psyop designed to make people ignore any response from language models that may reflect a Russian point of view. This article is probably also propaganda.
Edit: To clarify my point, since I’m getting downvoted:
Newsguard (the authors of the article) confirmed that "Pravda" is influencing chatbots.
How did they confirm this? By asking ChatGPT about "Russian narratives." However, it’s unclear which narratives they tested—while they mention two or three examples, they claim there are hundreds. This raises questions about whether some of these so-called narratives might simply be subjective opinions, or how they select those etc.
If the language model validated these vague statements, they concluded it was "infected."
They also quote someone who allegedly said, “By pushing these Russian narratives from the Russian perspective, we can actually change worldwide AI.” This is presented as proof that the process is already happening, which is at least a huge leap, but also there is no clear source for this statement.
How do they know LLMs used these sites as training material? Their reasoning is that LLMs produce similar responses. However, these responses could come from a variety of sources, as they are common in multiple news outlets.
Additionally, when they claim LLMs quote specific articles, they don’t specify which LLMs did this. A quick test with popular ones (such as asking ChatGPT why Zelensky banned Truth Social) does not replicate the claims made in the article.
My point is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and this report doesn’t provide it.
It seems biased—making a major claim without proper documentation on how the process actually works.
- EB-Barrington 2y ago[dead]
- nick486 2y ago> By asking ChatGPT about "Russian narratives." This is so stupid. ChatGPT is inferring the expected response tone from your question. Which means you could get it to argue pretty much anything with guided questions. I got it to admit its going to destroy humanity. Or that there is a likely a covert alien invasion in progress. All that with none of those "pretend you're X" prompts, just back-and-forth banter. Journalists should really have a mandatory course on what an llm is before being allowed to publish this kind of clickbait.
- Spooky23 2y agoThe problem is that LLMs are being sold as Google and web replacements. The lesson of Deepseek is that your ability to obtain knowledge is fundamentally controlled by whomever controls the popular model or model your employer selects.
- Spooky23 2y agoYou’re getting downvoted because when someone appears on a US centric message board with an argument that quacks like Russian whataboutism, it’s more likely that you’re a troll, bot, or duped.
- basfo 2y agoWell, i'm fron south america, far away from the conflict. Personally i think russia moved this to the military realm. Even if there was clearly a geopolitical dance going on that could be considered a menace, they invaded, so they started, they are the ones to blame. They left politics behind and started a war. But that doesn't mean that i will ignore there is propaganda going on on both sides, and that this article makes a statement with huge gaps in the argumentation. And that i will not mention it just because that statement benefits a particular side.