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Do tell. How is it better than Cursor, Windsurf or (probably closest) Aider? Does it do anything the former don't, that was not possible before? I did not reall

Do tell. How is it better than Cursor, Windsurf or (probably closest) Aider? Does it do anything the former don't, that was not possible before? I did not really understand the value prop, but am super interested to learn more.

ranscendental50 2y ago
Nope -- he's giving us his personal feedback and experience. I agree with him. I dislike Cursor and Windsurf and enjoy Claude Code alot. Bother to try it for yourself, and make your own decision. I know it make actually be a bit of work...but you'll probably find everyone has their own style from the web API, to some IDE. No need to be so hostile.
- nickthegreek 2y ago
  I do not read hostility there, just directness. He has a valid inquiry and states he is interested to learn more. Assume good faith.
  - j_bum 2y ago
    Agree. Not sure how, “I’m super interested to learn more,” indicates hostility.
    - sundarurfriend 2y ago
      I think ranscendental50's reply itself was unnecessarily hostile and don't agree with the way they responded, but I can see why they assumed hostility. "Do tell" is unfortunately to a large extent used passive aggressively on the Internet, and generally actually means "Don't bother telling me, you're obviously ignorant". This seems to be a case where it's meant genuinely, but it's not surprising that not everyone picked up on that.
rolisz 2y ago
I don't like Cursor, because I like PyCharm as my very awesome IDE. Claude Code is a terminal app, it's something that I just issue commands to and it mostly works, and then I check everything in PyCharm. I tried Aider a couple of months ago and it gave me crappy code. Maybe it was the model I used back then, but I didn't like it. I had much better experience with Claude Code.
- bredren 2y ago
  Are you running it from the built-in terminal in PyCharm? I also use that IDE and want to give this a swing. Can you elaborate on "check everything in pycharm?"
- MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
  There are valid criticisms of Aider (I feel like it might use more tokens than it needs to, but I haven't done a lot of comparisons), but output quality is certainly the model.
paxys 2y ago
Cursor's in-house models are vastly inferior to GPT or Claude. I bet the majority of Cursor users are still using one of these two under the hood.
- Kiro 2y ago
  Yes, but the question was about Claude Code and not the underlying model.
voidsnax 2y ago
Before Claude Code, out of the alternatives you mentioned, I'd only tried Windsurf. I find Claude Code to be roughly comparable to Windsurf in terms of capabilities, but I can use it from my terminal. I'm much more at home in a terminal than I am in VSCode (which Windsurf is a fork of).
- dhc02 2y ago
  Oh wow you owe it to yourself to try aider then. Architect mode especially, where you use one (usually reasoning) model to plan and one (usually Claude) to write code, is pretty awesome.

ranscendental50 2y ago

Nope -- he's giving us his personal feedback and experience. I agree with him. I dislike Cursor and Windsurf and enjoy Claude Code alot. Bother to try it for yourself, and make your own decision. I know it make actually be a bit of work...but you'll probably find everyone has their own style from the web API, to some IDE. No need to be so hostile.

nickthegreek 2y ago
I do not read hostility there, just directness. He has a valid inquiry and states he is interested to learn more. Assume good faith.
- j_bum 2y ago
  Agree. Not sure how, “I’m super interested to learn more,” indicates hostility.
  - sundarurfriend 2y ago
    I think ranscendental50's reply itself was unnecessarily hostile and don't agree with the way they responded, but I can see why they assumed hostility. "Do tell" is unfortunately to a large extent used passive aggressively on the Internet, and generally actually means "Don't bother telling me, you're obviously ignorant". This seems to be a case where it's meant genuinely, but it's not surprising that not everyone picked up on that.

rolisz 2y ago

I don't like Cursor, because I like PyCharm as my very awesome IDE. Claude Code is a terminal app, it's something that I just issue commands to and it mostly works, and then I check everything in PyCharm. I tried Aider a couple of months ago and it gave me crappy code. Maybe it was the model I used back then, but I didn't like it. I had much better experience with Claude Code.

bredren 2y ago
Are you running it from the built-in terminal in PyCharm? I also use that IDE and want to give this a swing. Can you elaborate on "check everything in pycharm?"
MyOutfitIsVague 2y ago
There are valid criticisms of Aider (I feel like it might use more tokens than it needs to, but I haven't done a lot of comparisons), but output quality is certainly the model.

paxys 2y ago

Cursor's in-house models are vastly inferior to GPT or Claude. I bet the majority of Cursor users are still using one of these two under the hood.

Kiro 2y ago
Yes, but the question was about Claude Code and not the underlying model.

voidsnax 2y ago

Before Claude Code, out of the alternatives you mentioned, I'd only tried Windsurf. I find Claude Code to be roughly comparable to Windsurf in terms of capabilities, but I can use it from my terminal. I'm much more at home in a terminal than I am in VSCode (which Windsurf is a fork of).

dhc02 2y ago
Oh wow you owe it to yourself to try aider then. Architect mode especially, where you use one (usually reasoning) model to plan and one (usually Claude) to write code, is pretty awesome.