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All I want from Microsoft with respect to Windows 11 is the ability to put my task bar on the left side of my screen again.

Semaphor 2y ago
It's not a 100% solution, and paid (dirt cheap though), closed source, but as I also have my monitor in landscape mode, I use https://startallback.com https://startallback.com
fifticon 2y ago
erh you can do this somehow,I did it to mine? now what _I_ want, is to be able to resize the taskbar again. also, I would prefer win11 didn't disable just about everything I had configured, particularly preview for file types. and - I dont know how they did it, but basic file explorer view feels much slower than win10,on the same machine. given that file explorer is basically all windows boils down to, i am not happy that they tske efforts to make it crappier. and given that win95 was able to show a file grid in 1995, I wonder how they are able to screw that up, 30 years later?
billfor 2y ago
Does windows classic (open) shell not work on Windows 11? I use it all the time on 10 and have the task bar on the right side.
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mihaaly 2y ago
You are a dreamer. I'd settle for having the real taskbar shown in Teams screen sharing instead of having the time rolled back to the time Teams started, or something. When I dare I dream of proper renaming experience inside of a OneDrive folder, without overriding me while typing. But that must be too much for the developers nowadays, unbearable difficulty! Me the humble servant of MS might must shut up.
- dowager_dan99 2y ago
  let's not even open the conversation on Teams. The fact that so many businesses (including my employer) run their fundamental activities on such a piece of shit BLOWS MY MIND. I'm sure there's some cool tech and lots of smart MS developers who are proud of contributions or features, but I don't think I'd put on my resume that I was focused on Teams. It's loathed by a lot of people and at best tolerated by the rest. Nobody would voluntarily inflict Teams on people they care about.
doublerabbit 2y ago
I want mine on the right. I don't understand how something that was possible in 10, isn't in 11.
- flenserboy 2y ago
  I'd put a dollar on it being due to tracking mouse behavior — if they want to cheaply track clicks & movement for the sake of advertisers, their surveillance needs to be as low-powered as possible.
- saratogacx 2y ago
  Someone had the smart idea to re-write the taskbar and when they did, they did the modern take where they tried to strip every feature they didn't think was important enough to stop someone from buying the upgrade. Over the last 3 years a hand full of features have come back but even those re-implementations have been a poor replication at best.
- reginald78 2y ago
  Windows has lost UI customization in every release since at least XP. RIP hotdog stand.
dev1ycan 2y ago
Or top, I like my taskbar being on top
Nemrod67 2y ago
I use Explorer Patcher for this, works well enough (though I had to uninstall it to update windows then reinstall it)
Jagerbizzle 2y ago
Not sure if this is a joke or not, but you can right-click the taskbar, click taskbar settings, and under the "Taskbar behaviors" tab there's a "Taskbar alignment" drop down with options "Left" and "Center.
- gjsman-1000 2y ago
  That controls whether the Start button, for opening the Start menu, is on the left of your taskbar like previous versions of Windows, or in the middle of your taskbar. The middle is the current default. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11#/media/File:Windows_11_Desktop.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11#/media/File:Windows...
- runjake 2y ago
  This does not move the taskbar. This aligns the icons on the taskbar, which stays at the bottom of the screen. Their best bet is to use the relatively reputable ExplorerPatcher. However, using ExplorerPatcher requires fiddling with your antivirus settings and weakening your PC's security, so maybe trying to live with the new normal is better? https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher
rqtwteye 2y ago
How about opening Explorer windows in less than a second (or at least 5)? Or being able to customize the Explorer context menu. They were on the right track by pushing the old context menu into a separate second menu. But they should allow the user to select what shows in the primary menu instead of the seemingly random stuff that shows there.
- vyrotek 2y ago
  There are a couple of alternatives to try. Scott Hanselman reviewed them here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDUQrC5YxT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDUQrC5YxT0 FilePlot is very quick.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Yeah my Amiga 500 from 1987 was faster at that lol Ps I do absolutely hate the split of the context menu in two parts because many frequent operations have now become two clicks instead of one. Luckily it can be switched off at home but sadly not on my work laptop. I didn't imagine any power user would be happy with what change.
  - rqtwteye 2y ago
    I think the idea of having a primary context menu that pushes less important stuff into the second menu was good and long needed. But it needs to be user customizable so you can control what you really want. Instead we have a primary menu with random stuff and a secondary menu with other random stuff. I don't know how they manage Windows these days but whoever does it, has no interest/competence in making things better.
    - wkat4242 2y ago
      Hmm fair enough, yes if I could pick the items it would make a lot more sense. Especially stuff like the send to submenu I would never use.
mft_ 2y ago
I’d like be able to uninstall Edge which, as of earlier today, isn’t possible without fairly focussed time consuming effort.
- lurk2 2y ago
  It hasn't been possible for ages. I haven't tried on 11 but on 10 you can switch your region to somewhere in the EU and that will allow you to delete the folders. I couldn't get the actual uninstaller to run, and I'm not sure if it will come back in the next update after the region has been switched back, but this is the only method I found that worked.
beardedmoose 2y ago
On the admin side it's gotten worse. Working in IT and having to support Windows 11 through Active Directory is a nightmare now. MS has removed almost all admin control in favor of user choice forcing us into workarounds and hacks to get most things working. It also seems evident they would like Active Directory to go away in favor of their cloud options which are horrible slow and clunky.
- mmooss 2y ago
  > having to support Windows 11 through Active Directory is a nightmare now. MS has removed almost all admin control in favor of user choice What does that mean - group policy has many fewer policies? Why would Microsoft do that - it is only used in organizations with IT departments, and they definitely want to automate and lock down configuration.
  - beardedmoose 2y ago
    From what I have seen they are just not creating any new policies really for group policy and they are mostly developing intune.
Andrew6rant 2y ago
WindHawk mod can do this. Made by the same dev as Win7+ Taskbar Tweaker

Semaphor 2y ago

It's not a 100% solution, and paid (dirt cheap though), closed source, but as I also have my monitor in landscape mode, I use https://startallback.com https://startallback.com

fifticon 2y ago

erh you can do this somehow,I did it to mine? now what _I_ want, is to be able to resize the taskbar again. also, I would prefer win11 didn't disable just about everything I had configured, particularly preview for file types. and - I dont know how they did it, but basic file explorer view feels much slower than win10,on the same machine. given that file explorer is basically all windows boils down to, i am not happy that they tske efforts to make it crappier. and given that win95 was able to show a file grid in 1995, I wonder how they are able to screw that up, 30 years later?

billfor 2y ago

Does windows classic (open) shell not work on Windows 11? I use it all the time on 10 and have the task bar on the right side.

deleted 2y ago

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mihaaly 2y ago

You are a dreamer. I'd settle for having the real taskbar shown in Teams screen sharing instead of having the time rolled back to the time Teams started, or something. When I dare I dream of proper renaming experience inside of a OneDrive folder, without overriding me while typing. But that must be too much for the developers nowadays, unbearable difficulty! Me the humble servant of MS might must shut up.

dowager_dan99 2y ago
let's not even open the conversation on Teams. The fact that so many businesses (including my employer) run their fundamental activities on such a piece of shit BLOWS MY MIND. I'm sure there's some cool tech and lots of smart MS developers who are proud of contributions or features, but I don't think I'd put on my resume that I was focused on Teams. It's loathed by a lot of people and at best tolerated by the rest. Nobody would voluntarily inflict Teams on people they care about.

doublerabbit 2y ago

I want mine on the right. I don't understand how something that was possible in 10, isn't in 11.

flenserboy 2y ago
I'd put a dollar on it being due to tracking mouse behavior — if they want to cheaply track clicks & movement for the sake of advertisers, their surveillance needs to be as low-powered as possible.
saratogacx 2y ago
Someone had the smart idea to re-write the taskbar and when they did, they did the modern take where they tried to strip every feature they didn't think was important enough to stop someone from buying the upgrade. Over the last 3 years a hand full of features have come back but even those re-implementations have been a poor replication at best.
reginald78 2y ago
Windows has lost UI customization in every release since at least XP. RIP hotdog stand.

dev1ycan 2y ago

Or top, I like my taskbar being on top

Nemrod67 2y ago

I use Explorer Patcher for this, works well enough (though I had to uninstall it to update windows then reinstall it)

Jagerbizzle 2y ago

Not sure if this is a joke or not, but you can right-click the taskbar, click taskbar settings, and under the "Taskbar behaviors" tab there's a "Taskbar alignment" drop down with options "Left" and "Center.

gjsman-1000 2y ago
That controls whether the Start button, for opening the Start menu, is on the left of your taskbar like previous versions of Windows, or in the middle of your taskbar. The middle is the current default. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11#/media/File:Windows_11_Desktop.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_11#/media/File:Windows...
runjake 2y ago
This does not move the taskbar. This aligns the icons on the taskbar, which stays at the bottom of the screen. Their best bet is to use the relatively reputable ExplorerPatcher. However, using ExplorerPatcher requires fiddling with your antivirus settings and weakening your PC's security, so maybe trying to live with the new normal is better? https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher

rqtwteye 2y ago

How about opening Explorer windows in less than a second (or at least 5)? Or being able to customize the Explorer context menu. They were on the right track by pushing the old context menu into a separate second menu. But they should allow the user to select what shows in the primary menu instead of the seemingly random stuff that shows there.

vyrotek 2y ago
There are a couple of alternatives to try. Scott Hanselman reviewed them here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDUQrC5YxT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDUQrC5YxT0 FilePlot is very quick.
wkat4242 2y ago
Yeah my Amiga 500 from 1987 was faster at that lol Ps I do absolutely hate the split of the context menu in two parts because many frequent operations have now become two clicks instead of one. Luckily it can be switched off at home but sadly not on my work laptop. I didn't imagine any power user would be happy with what change.
- rqtwteye 2y ago
  I think the idea of having a primary context menu that pushes less important stuff into the second menu was good and long needed. But it needs to be user customizable so you can control what you really want. Instead we have a primary menu with random stuff and a secondary menu with other random stuff. I don't know how they manage Windows these days but whoever does it, has no interest/competence in making things better.
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    Hmm fair enough, yes if I could pick the items it would make a lot more sense. Especially stuff like the send to submenu I would never use.

mft_ 2y ago

I’d like be able to uninstall Edge which, as of earlier today, isn’t possible without fairly focussed time consuming effort.

lurk2 2y ago
It hasn't been possible for ages. I haven't tried on 11 but on 10 you can switch your region to somewhere in the EU and that will allow you to delete the folders. I couldn't get the actual uninstaller to run, and I'm not sure if it will come back in the next update after the region has been switched back, but this is the only method I found that worked.

beardedmoose 2y ago

On the admin side it's gotten worse. Working in IT and having to support Windows 11 through Active Directory is a nightmare now. MS has removed almost all admin control in favor of user choice forcing us into workarounds and hacks to get most things working. It also seems evident they would like Active Directory to go away in favor of their cloud options which are horrible slow and clunky.

mmooss 2y ago
> having to support Windows 11 through Active Directory is a nightmare now. MS has removed almost all admin control in favor of user choice What does that mean - group policy has many fewer policies? Why would Microsoft do that - it is only used in organizations with IT departments, and they definitely want to automate and lock down configuration.
- beardedmoose 2y ago
  From what I have seen they are just not creating any new policies really for group policy and they are mostly developing intune.

Andrew6rant 2y ago

WindHawk mod can do this. Made by the same dev as Win7+ Taskbar Tweaker