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I've read (but not tried) that what works is a verrry loooong wire strung up like between trees or in a barn.

sidewndr46 2y ago
It's not a bad choice, but the tiny tecsun radio I have has a telescopic antenna that is about 3 ft long when extended. It receives shortwave very well. If there is some distant broadcast (maybe overseas) that you want to receive you can definitely build a very efficient antenna system for that broadcaster's frequency. Be prepared to shell out well over $10,000 for this.
- TheAlchemist 2y ago
  What kind of equipement one would need for that ? Also interested in what kind of equipment broadcasters use - it's some off the shelf stuff ?
  - _whiteCaps_ 2y ago
    For reception, a tower with a 3 element Yagi antenna with a rotator so you can point it in exactly the right direction. Although I think you can do it cheaper - people have had a lot of success with a Beverage antenna. It takes up a lot of space though!
  - sidewndr46 2y ago
    This explains the process - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUaMXxWYao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUaMXxWYao
cf100clunk 2y ago
Regarding simply stringing long wire, if you have a huge, flat land area and don't mind overhead wires, erect a rhombic antenna on dedicated poles for extremely high gain but with a few downsides worth reading about, such as the sheer size needed for shortwave. Don't string wires between trees as they are guaranteed to snap in the wind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna
- sidewndr46 2y ago
  To my knowledge there is basically one person doing non-commercial work with rhombics in north america: https://www.k0uo.com/ https://www.k0uo.com/ The same guy also owns an airport from what I recall.
  - ahazred8ta 2y ago
    At some overseas US military bases they have a huge dual rhomboid for HAM / MARS.
UncleEntity 2y ago
I tried that with my buddy's shortwave while on guard duty in Iraq and fried the thing due to atmospheric electrostatic energy discharge (or it's actual scientific name), needless to say he was less than happy with me. First clue probably should have been the visible sparks coming off the antenna wire. Second clue should have been I was sitting in a truck insulated from the ground. Yep, he definitely should have known better.
- sidewndr46 2y ago
  its more likely that the wire coupled in a very large amount of RF power from a transmitter that was at the base, damaging the unit. I obviously don't know your units deployment equipment, but the transmitter at the base is often greater than 100 watts of output
  - UncleEntity 2y ago
    Could be, I always just assumed it was from the high prevalence of static electricity in the desert. When I lived in Phoenix I would always touch the back of my hand to anything metal (like doorknobs) before touching it with my fingers because I've been shocked way too many times.
tinix 2y ago
as a ham, I highly recommend K9AY receiving loop antenna. you can find instructions online. it's a loop antenna design that's steerable via DPDT switch and has directional noise rejection. it also takes up less space horizontally than an efhw.

It's not a bad choice, but the tiny tecsun radio I have has a telescopic antenna that is about 3 ft long when extended. It receives shortwave very well. If there is some distant broadcast (maybe overseas) that you want to receive you can definitely build a very efficient antenna system for that broadcaster's frequency. Be prepared to shell out well over $10,000 for this.

TheAlchemist 2y ago
What kind of equipement one would need for that ? Also interested in what kind of equipment broadcasters use - it's some off the shelf stuff ?
- _whiteCaps_ 2y ago
  For reception, a tower with a 3 element Yagi antenna with a rotator so you can point it in exactly the right direction. Although I think you can do it cheaper - people have had a lot of success with a Beverage antenna. It takes up a lot of space though!
- sidewndr46 2y ago
  This explains the process - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUaMXxWYao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUaMXxWYao

cf100clunk 2y ago

Regarding simply stringing long wire, if you have a huge, flat land area and don't mind overhead wires, erect a rhombic antenna on dedicated poles for extremely high gain but with a few downsides worth reading about, such as the sheer size needed for shortwave. Don't string wires between trees as they are guaranteed to snap in the wind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhombic_antenna

sidewndr46 2y ago
To my knowledge there is basically one person doing non-commercial work with rhombics in north america: https://www.k0uo.com/ https://www.k0uo.com/ The same guy also owns an airport from what I recall.
- ahazred8ta 2y ago
  At some overseas US military bases they have a huge dual rhomboid for HAM / MARS.

UncleEntity 2y ago

I tried that with my buddy's shortwave while on guard duty in Iraq and fried the thing due to atmospheric electrostatic energy discharge (or it's actual scientific name), needless to say he was less than happy with me. First clue probably should have been the visible sparks coming off the antenna wire. Second clue should have been I was sitting in a truck insulated from the ground. Yep, he definitely should have known better.

sidewndr46 2y ago
its more likely that the wire coupled in a very large amount of RF power from a transmitter that was at the base, damaging the unit. I obviously don't know your units deployment equipment, but the transmitter at the base is often greater than 100 watts of output
- UncleEntity 2y ago
  Could be, I always just assumed it was from the high prevalence of static electricity in the desert. When I lived in Phoenix I would always touch the back of my hand to anything metal (like doorknobs) before touching it with my fingers because I've been shocked way too many times.

tinix 2y ago

as a ham, I highly recommend K9AY receiving loop antenna. you can find instructions online. it's a loop antenna design that's steerable via DPDT switch and has directional noise rejection. it also takes up less space horizontally than an efhw.