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And thats why kids India set their own satellite navigation because USA cannot be trusted. navic. And isro made satellite imagery

zinekeller 2y ago
Well, basically every nation with large enough budget has one set up (US, Russia, EU, China, Japan, and India has them). More directly to the point, I won't be shocked if Airbus (which also operates satellite imagery services) steps up, although that would open a very big hole since, uhm, Airbus makes civilian planes too. (Something to think: European governments have large stakes in Airbus, plus Airbus' history as an intergovernmental consortium might factor in favor here.)
- mopsi 2y ago
  What do you mean by a very big hole? That it would damage the brand and its civilian sales? Airbus is known for civilian airliners, but it has been a major stakeholder in many military projects for decades. Airbus has a 46% (largest) stake in Eurofighter Typoon, 37.5% in MBDA that builds all kinds of missiles, etc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Defence_and_Space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Defence_and_Space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA
  - zinekeller 2y ago
    C'mon, US could sanction Airbus as a whole if Trump (or whoever actually manages these things) decides to. This was inconceivable back then, but everything is off the tables now.
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toomuchtodo 2y ago
France literally just yesterday successfully launched their spy satellite, which seems to be fortunate timing to get away from the US. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/europes-ariane-6-stages-first-commercial-launch-2025-03-06/ https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/europes-a...
- mapt 2y ago
  You don't need one. You need hundreds.
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    It is progress, not success.
    - red-iron-pine 2y ago
      but ukraine needs successes -- today
      - toomuchtodo 2y ago
        Then the EU needs to refocus from assisting defending on the front line and switch to sabotaging Russia's critical petroleum infra, refineries, pipelines, storage facilities. Success won't be had until they are kneecapped economically (and time is paramount, as you mention). It is known where these facilities are, no spy satellites are needed. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/12/ukraine-can-improve-its-campaign-against-russias-infrastructure-heres-how-a87966 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/12/ukraine-can-improv... https://san.com/cc/ukraine-strikes-at-russias-economic-heart-oil-refineries-in-flames/ https://san.com/cc/ukraine-strikes-at-russias-economic-heart...

zinekeller 2y ago

Well, basically every nation with large enough budget has one set up (US, Russia, EU, China, Japan, and India has them). More directly to the point, I won't be shocked if Airbus (which also operates satellite imagery services) steps up, although that would open a very big hole since, uhm, Airbus makes civilian planes too. (Something to think: European governments have large stakes in Airbus, plus Airbus' history as an intergovernmental consortium might factor in favor here.)

mopsi 2y ago
What do you mean by a very big hole? That it would damage the brand and its civilian sales? Airbus is known for civilian airliners, but it has been a major stakeholder in many military projects for decades. Airbus has a 46% (largest) stake in Eurofighter Typoon, 37.5% in MBDA that builds all kinds of missiles, etc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Defence_and_Space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Defence_and_Space https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBDA
- zinekeller 2y ago
  C'mon, US could sanction Airbus as a whole if Trump (or whoever actually manages these things) decides to. This was inconceivable back then, but everything is off the tables now.

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toomuchtodo 2y ago

France literally just yesterday successfully launched their spy satellite, which seems to be fortunate timing to get away from the US. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/europes-ariane-6-stages-first-commercial-launch-2025-03-06/ https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/europes-a...

mapt 2y ago
You don't need one. You need hundreds.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  It is progress, not success.
  - red-iron-pine 2y ago
    but ukraine needs successes -- today
    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      Then the EU needs to refocus from assisting defending on the front line and switch to sabotaging Russia's critical petroleum infra, refineries, pipelines, storage facilities. Success won't be had until they are kneecapped economically (and time is paramount, as you mention). It is known where these facilities are, no spy satellites are needed. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/12/ukraine-can-improve-its-campaign-against-russias-infrastructure-heres-how-a87966 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/02/12/ukraine-can-improv... https://san.com/cc/ukraine-strikes-at-russias-economic-heart-oil-refineries-in-flames/ https://san.com/cc/ukraine-strikes-at-russias-economic-heart...