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It's shocking how often other companies just outright clone what Apple does. That new start menu grid isn't just similar to the iPhone App Library, it's identic

It's shocking how often other companies just outright clone what Apple does. That new start menu grid isn't just similar to the iPhone App Library, it's identical.

bayindirh 2y ago
And the iPhone is just a copy and evolution of the PalmOS paradigm. I'm not mad at Apple, because when they put up that UI, the PalmOS was basically dead. Then (what remains of) Palm had cloned the UI of Apple Watch for their "small" phone.
- GaryNumanVevo 2y ago
  I had a Palm Pre way back in the day, it was easily 5 years ahead of other phones. It's very clear that a lot of the iPhone's initial design language was inspired by PalmOS
kypro 2y ago
To be fair to MS I remember almost everyone was copying aspects of the Metro UI in the early 2010s.
- smjburton 2y ago
  Yeah, it wasn't always the best experience on desktop, but on tablet and mobile, it helped small screens feel bigger and made apps feel more dynamic and organic with live tiles. The emphasis on typography was a nice touch as well. Although it's harder to tell now, a lot of the current UI design for apps draws from the Metro UI style with big, bold fonts for navigational elements, fluid, dynamic, animated content experiences, etc.
princevegeta89 2y ago
Actually, Apple copied a ton of things and features from Android 8 and above.
jpalawaga 2y ago
It's not? The iPhone App library has a TERRIBLE UX with its mandatory (and confusing) grouping. The Windows 11 Start Menu grid is fine just the way it is, but I guess now there is a category mode for people who like to hide their apps. It's closer to Android which has no grouping. Besides, Apple only did the library once they realized Android's approach of customizable home screens + library was superior to forcing every app to be on your home screens. Both of which ripped off the Desktop, which goes back to what, the Xerox computing days?

It's shocking how often other companies just outright clone what Apple does. That new start menu grid isn't just similar to the iPhone App Library, it's identical.

bayindirh 2y ago

And the iPhone is just a copy and evolution of the PalmOS paradigm. I'm not mad at Apple, because when they put up that UI, the PalmOS was basically dead. Then (what remains of) Palm had cloned the UI of Apple Watch for their "small" phone.

GaryNumanVevo 2y ago
I had a Palm Pre way back in the day, it was easily 5 years ahead of other phones. It's very clear that a lot of the iPhone's initial design language was inspired by PalmOS

kypro 2y ago

To be fair to MS I remember almost everyone was copying aspects of the Metro UI in the early 2010s.

smjburton 2y ago
Yeah, it wasn't always the best experience on desktop, but on tablet and mobile, it helped small screens feel bigger and made apps feel more dynamic and organic with live tiles. The emphasis on typography was a nice touch as well. Although it's harder to tell now, a lot of the current UI design for apps draws from the Metro UI style with big, bold fonts for navigational elements, fluid, dynamic, animated content experiences, etc.

princevegeta89 2y ago

Actually, Apple copied a ton of things and features from Android 8 and above.

jpalawaga 2y ago

It's not? The iPhone App library has a TERRIBLE UX with its mandatory (and confusing) grouping. The Windows 11 Start Menu grid is fine just the way it is, but I guess now there is a category mode for people who like to hide their apps. It's closer to Android which has no grouping. Besides, Apple only did the library once they realized Android's approach of customizable home screens + library was superior to forcing every app to be on your home screens. Both of which ripped off the Desktop, which goes back to what, the Xerox computing days?