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Really wish M$ work harder to attract me and other Mac user back to Windows. The PC hardware saw great improvements and continue to move in right directions. It
by ksec 2y ago
Really wish M$ work harder to attract me and other Mac user back to Windows. The PC hardware saw great improvements and continue to move in right directions. It is now up to the software / Windows to show what the are capable of.
- bayindirh 2y agoI manage the Windows 11 desktop system of my parents. The interruptions, feeding of click-bait news, trying to force Edge, Bing, OneDrive and other online services, tons of overt and covert telemetry, the older parts of Windows visible like a sore thumb... All of these things push me away and away from Microsoft every day. Thanks, but no thanks. I'm happy with my Linux desktops and Mac laptops. They're interoperable, using Macs are trouble free 99.99% of the time, and my Linux desktops just work. Life is good, at last.
- johnisgood 2y agoThere are Windows 11 debloaters that I use. https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools https://github.com/LeDragoX/Win-Debloat-Tools https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat If you must, of course. I stick to Linux.
- bayindirh 2y agoThanks! But, we have been taking chisels & sledgehammers to shape our Windows installations to the shapes we like but Microsoft doesn't approve and try to counter since Windows 95. I gave up the whole ecosystem. I'm fine.
- johnisgood 2y agoGood, I have given up a long time ago, I was around 13 years old when I installed my first Linux distribution and I am fine with it ever since. (I went through OpenSolaris and FreeBSD, too, for desktop).
- bayindirh 2y agoLooks like we migrated to Linux around the same time. Nice!
- princevegeta89 2y agoAnd, god knows if you'll have to keep using these multiple times as the system updates are known to reset stuff.... lol
- johnisgood 2y agoYeah, most likely. It is awful.
- defrost 2y agoI cannot recommend the Chris Titus Win Util enough here. It's a powershell GUI over power shell scripts overseen by one talented windows engineer with contributions from hundreds. https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil https://christitus.com/windows-tool/ https://christitus.com/windows-tool/ There are youtube videos: https://www.youtube.com/c/ChrisTitusTech https://www.youtube.com/c/ChrisTitusTech It's a simple way to declutter windows 10 and or 11, build custom stripped install images, install useful utilities and dev environs, etc. For any that care to look under the hood (and there are a number) it's open and transparent and a good way to get that Windows VM image for hosted OS's, gameplay, Qubes OS, etc.
- whywhywhywhy 2y agoI’ve done both in my life and I thought Mac stuff would be better but managing iPad issues is just as frustrating and often more obtuse.
- patates 2y agoJust yesterday, I ordered a mac for me the first time in my life because I lost hope of PC hardware ever catching up to the convenience and stability of a mac. This is from a person who likes Windows and especially Linux much more than MacOS.
- bayindirh 2y agoYou'll find out that macOS is much easier to interconnect with Linux than Windows, and will probably have a little happy ecosystem around you.
- princevegeta89 2y agoYup, have been using Lima and it has been rock-solid.
- princevegeta89 2y agoWSL is really great, and I loved the fact Microsoft moved towards being more developer friendly and bringing all great tools and utilities to the Modern Windows (10 and above). But..... the predatory nature of Windows and the half-ass revisions done to the UI elements, with decades-old applications with the legacy UI that can still be accessed directly, makes Windows a mess. To add to this, The hold that Microsoft has on Windows is so nasty that it keeps overriding settings like default browsers and applications, to favor Microsoft-built apps like Edge, along with the heavy telemetry just leads this platform to be a mess. It is not a clean system at all, and even sometimes pales in comparison to Linux Desktop, let alone OSX.
- ljm 2y agoReally does feel sometimes that Microsoft's tech is held hostage by growth KPIs. Nothing they build is left untouched by the invisible hand of ad-driven enshittification. Shows how skewed the market is when you can actively fuck up your products and still stay ahead of the competition. Nobody without hundreds of billions behind them would stand a chance if they tried the same.
- ItsBob 2y agoI reckon it depends on what kind of experience you want from your OS: there may be a variant that works for you already. Take me for example. I want my OS to GTFO of my way. It's a toolbox, like the one a carpenter would carry around. I use the applications on it (the saw, hammer, nails etc.), not the OS itself (the carpenter toolbox). In my case, the Enterprise LTO (or whatever it's called) is almost exactly what I need but the consumer variants are constantly trying to "help" me with shit I don't want.
- hulitu 2y ago> It is now up to the software / Windows to show what the are capable of. They did this in Windows 2000. Now Microsoft and Windows are only showing what they are _not_ capable of.
- gjvc 2y agoWindows 2000 was really great.
- aquir 2y agoThey lost me a year ago for forever. The OS is just too hostile, annoying and pushy. What was the last drop is Edge and that awful Home Page plus the news/widget things. I would not mind any of them but enabling by default is just not right. It is incredible that how smoother the macOS experience is using a Macbook Pro M2 - it is not perfect at all, every OS have it's own annoyances but the OS is not working against me any more
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- princevegeta89 2y agoYup, we could argue that it's not even targeted towards power users. It's just a total bloat of useless shit and a ton of Microsoft-controlled settings and features all over your OS. The promotions/ads and tracking that happens with every other screen on the OS just make it look very cheap and unprofessional. It's so stupid that Microsoft could not come up with a developer-focused version of Windows meant for Enterprises, with all the bloat that's targeted for other things just removed.
- pjmlp 2y agoGiven the market share of both platforms, and the relevance on server workloads, they have enough space to mess up. Additionally I guess this weeks announcements prove the point Apple has given up to Windows and Linux mindshare, the composable desktop space.
- whywhywhywhy 2y agoYou use windows because you have to not because you want to. I was a Mac only user for decades but now run Mac laptops and Windows towers just to use Nvidia cards for 3D, CUDA simulation and processing and AI. Ended up getting back into PC games too as a side effect so that keeps me on the windows side too but if it wasn’t for Adobe and Cinema4D being windows I’d use Linux. Crazy using both because some things on windows, file browsing, file manipulation, image thumbnails, unzipping, copying etc are all so dog slow compared to Mac yet when you run something like Octane Render you truly see what the same hardware is capable of. It’s kinda sickening.
- twilo 2y agoI use macOS and win11 and haven’t noticed any of those issues… if anything I prefer explorer over finder and file management on windows is much better
- whywhywhywhy 2y agoIt’s all there and so bad a side by side would be comical. You either can’t see it or you don’t deal with files on the same scale I do.
- WillAdams 2y agoI have a Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 (actually 2 of them, long story) because I _have_ to have a stylus, and don't find the trifecta of: iPad, MacBook, and Apple Pencil a workable option (and the "tick" of the Apple Pencil being touched to the screen and the need to keep yet another battery charged would drive me nuts). I'd give my interest in Hell for a successor to the Axiotron ModBook, and if the Wacom Movink 13 had a screen resolution to compeat w/ the 3K OLED on my GB3, I'd give up on having a battery and have it and a Mac Mini, so that I could get back to something like to my NeXT Cube w/ Wacom ArtZ (which was paired w/ an NCR-3125 running PenPoint for portability). So yeah, the hardware on the Windows side is better suited to some folks, and I agree that the software really, really needs work. Things I miss: - Miller Column File Browser - Services - emacs shortcuts when using a keyboard - TeXshop and other Cocoa apps Things which annoy me on Windows - the need to keep Settings open and toggle how the stylus behaves - not being able to select text in most web browsers (Firefox and derivatives at least still have a working configuration for allowing this) - the need to manage various settings to keep ads and Copilot from intruding That said, having a Wacom One paired w/ my MacBook works pretty well, it's just not something I can use away from my desk.
- bsnnkv 2y agoI'll bite: after writing and using komorebi[1], it's very painful for me to go back to using software like yabai or aerospace - macOS programmatic UI interactions are just too slow, while on Windows they feel comparatively instant. All of this is made possible for me as a developer by the excellent work Microsoft has done in providing Win32 bindings for Rust. If only Apple would provide the same. [1]: https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi
- mrcwinn 2y agoNot so fast. I really like the form factor of the Surface Pro and appreciate that a proper PC build runs circles around Macs for gaming - but features like nano-texture displays on the MacBook Pro from Apple is yet another hardware improvement that are, for me, now table stakes. I would not consider daily driving a Windows laptop without that. As for software, WSL2 is a step forward, but it's hard to beat a true native environment on my Mac. It's the modern version of "it just works" in the Mac vs PC debate.
- Aurornis 2y agoI switch back and forth with a Windows workstation because some very expensive software I use is Windows-only. The default installation is annoying, but I can go from a clean install to having the annoying widgets cleaned up in a few minutes (hint: Try right clicking on anything you don’t want to see. If that doesn’t work, Google it and you’ll find a lot of solutions) To my surprise, I’ve found my Windows workstation to be more stable with heavy RAM use and multitasking. I basically never reboot except for updates. Meanwhile, my high spec Mac seems to bog down with a lot of multitasking over the course of a week. Reboot fixes it. I find myself wishing for the stability and consistency of the Windows machine, which is not something I ever expected.
- p_ing 2y ago> Windows workstation to be more stable with heavy RAM use and multitasking This has been true since the NT4 days where you could make that spinning rust beg for mercy under a heavily used page file and NT would never fall over. macOS will complain fairly quickly after it's swap space runs out. And if you read /r/macos or /r/mac, you'll see that happens with innocuous programs as well as 1st party Apple apps like Pages/Music. There's a memory leak in userland across a wide variety of apps in macOS right now.
- tannhaeuser 2y agoForget about it, Windows 11 is chock full of "telemetry" to train MS/"OpenAI"/Copilot models to predict user behavior (that is, to make you obsolete) and ads. At some point, MS management has decided it is more lucrative for MSFT stock in times of AI craze to turn Windows against its users. It didn't have to become like this, and while I've never been a Windows person, it's sad to see Windows go. I've just recently setup probably my last Windows 10 tablet/"convertible" (that will remain on Windows 10, just made sure to install Windows 11 in addition/in a dual boot setup so I don't risk a drama going forward when it eventually needs 11), and the tablet features Windows 8 had and to a lesser degree Windows 10 still has were not half-bad and even had "soul"; I wish MS hadn't given totally up on mobile, tablets in education, etc.
- varispeed 2y agoDesktop PC maybe, but for something more mobile there is currently no capable hardware that could be a match to any Apple Mx processor.