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I know nvidia's support is not perfect. But frankly which is better, something that's not perfect but achieving "good enough" support, or something like ATi tha

I know nvidia's support is not perfect. But frankly which is better, something that's not perfect but achieving "good enough" support, or something like ATi that has so many bugs you couldn't even use Gnome 3, a desktop environment ? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNzk http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyN... http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=99 I couldn't run any game under wine either without crashing, even older games that usually run ok like Baldur's Gate 2. The open source driver are much more stable but on the other hand they are MUCH slower. Like, turning a good, midrange card like the Radeon 5770, into what low end crap would do in Windows. But you're better off with that mid range or a high end card since a low end card is not going to be usable at all for anything that makes use of the GPU, with the open source drivers running even free games like Xonotic on a low end card is plain crazy. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r600g_compete12&num=11 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_r... On a game like Warsow, the difference between the open source driver and the catalyst can be as high as 34 fps vs 374 fps (34 fps is not enough for a fluid gaming experience, you need at least 50 to 60. Gaming is not like the 24 fps of motion pictures with each frame blurred giving the illusion of movement even with a low framerate since each frame rendered in a 3d game are sharp as hell.) on a high end card, and 17 fps vs 45 fps on a low end card, which means that the game is not playable at all on the open source driver, while it's tolerable on the catalyst. AMD's stuff is not worth the pain. Don't buy AMD unless you have a masochist streak. I wish I had known before I built my desktop, I was being influenced by all the free software maniacs who were praising AMD to heaven because of their policy on giving out the GPU specs. Free software be damned, I will take nvidia's closed source driver over shit that is not working the next time. My previous GPU was a Nvidia Geforce 7600 GT and it worked like a clock.

moonchrome 14y ago
Just wanted to say that I have the same graphics card and the exact same problems with it (Gnome 3 even with all the patches and everything would still "restart" once per hour at least), so seriously if you are interested in running Linux avoid AMD.
- Nicole060 14y ago
  And here I hoped that since the last time I tried that it would finally work.. many months have passed since the last time I gave Linux a go on this desktop. The fact that you're saying that you're still having this problem now is not making me feel any happier. ... if in the next 6 months the situation doesn't get any better I feel I am going to physically destroy the GPU with a hammer, send the pic to AMD and buy a nvidia before the need for a hardware upgrade even shows up. The fact that it has drivers problems even under windows doesn't help making AMD's case.
  - moonchrome 14y ago
    >The fact that you're saying that you're still having this problem now is not making me feel any happier. TBH I also gave up about a month and a half ago it could have changed recently but I doubt it.
- ori_b 14y ago
  No, avoid proprietary drivers. The open source ATI drivers are working beautifully for me. They're fast enough for everything I do, and they've been rock solid for me.
  - moonchrome 14y ago
    >They're fast enough for everything I do Waay to slow for gaming (I tried HoN and NVN) also WebGL was really slow (software rendering kind slow), since this is a thread about games I think this use case is required - I didn't try the OSS drivers in ~6 months so it could have changed. But Gnome/desktop was really stable so if you only need desktop apps it does work.

moonchrome 14y ago

Just wanted to say that I have the same graphics card and the exact same problems with it (Gnome 3 even with all the patches and everything would still "restart" once per hour at least), so seriously if you are interested in running Linux avoid AMD.

Nicole060 14y ago
And here I hoped that since the last time I tried that it would finally work.. many months have passed since the last time I gave Linux a go on this desktop. The fact that you're saying that you're still having this problem now is not making me feel any happier. ... if in the next 6 months the situation doesn't get any better I feel I am going to physically destroy the GPU with a hammer, send the pic to AMD and buy a nvidia before the need for a hardware upgrade even shows up. The fact that it has drivers problems even under windows doesn't help making AMD's case.
- moonchrome 14y ago
  >The fact that you're saying that you're still having this problem now is not making me feel any happier. TBH I also gave up about a month and a half ago it could have changed recently but I doubt it.
ori_b 14y ago
No, avoid proprietary drivers. The open source ATI drivers are working beautifully for me. They're fast enough for everything I do, and they've been rock solid for me.
- moonchrome 14y ago
  >They're fast enough for everything I do Waay to slow for gaming (I tried HoN and NVN) also WebGL was really slow (software rendering kind slow), since this is a thread about games I think this use case is required - I didn't try the OSS drivers in ~6 months so it could have changed. But Gnome/desktop was really stable so if you only need desktop apps it does work.