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Good lord, I dearly hope not. That sounds like a coddled hellscape world, something you'd see made fun of in Disney's Wall-E.

by devmor 2y ago

notepad0x90 2y ago
hence my comment about privacy and need for legislation :) It isn't the tech that's the problem but the people that will abuse it.
- devmor 2y ago
  While those are concerns, my point was that having everything on the internet navigated to, digested and explained to me sounds unpleasant and overall a drain on my ability to think and reason for myself. It is specifically how you describe using the tech that provokes a feeling of revulsion to me.
  - notepad0x90 2y ago
    Then I think you misunderstand. The ML system would know when you want things digested to you or not. Right now companies are assuming this and forcing LLM interaction. But when properly done, the system would know based on your behavior or explicit prompts what you want and provide the service. If you're staring at a paragraph intently and confused, it might start highlighting common phrases or parts of the text/picture that might be hard to grasp and based on your reaction to that, it might start describing things via audio,tool tips,side pane,etc.. In other words, if you don't like how and when you're interacting with the LLM ecosystem, then that is an immature and failing ecosystem, in my vision this would be a largely solved problems, like how we interact with keyboards,mouse and touchscreens today.
    - devmor 2y ago
      No, I fully understand. I am saying that this type of system, that deprives the user of problem solving, is itself a problem. A detriment to the very essence of human intelligence.
      - notepad0x90 2y ago
        I just look at it as allowing the user to focus on problems that aren't already easily solved. Like using a calculator instead of calculating manually on paper.
        devmor 2y ago
        But the scenario you described is one in which you need an equation explained to you. That is exactly the kind of scenario where it's important to do the calculation yourself to understand it. If you are expecting problems to be solved for you, you are not learning, you're just consuming content.
        notepad0x90 2y ago
        explained != solved

Good lord, I dearly hope not. That sounds like a coddled hellscape world, something you'd see made fun of in Disney's Wall-E.

by devmor 2y ago

Good lord, I dearly hope not. That sounds like a coddled hellscape world, something you'd see made fun of in Disney's Wall-E.

notepad0x90 2y ago

hence my comment about privacy and need for legislation :) It isn't the tech that's the problem but the people that will abuse it.

devmor 2y ago
While those are concerns, my point was that having everything on the internet navigated to, digested and explained to me sounds unpleasant and overall a drain on my ability to think and reason for myself. It is specifically how you describe using the tech that provokes a feeling of revulsion to me.
- notepad0x90 2y ago
  Then I think you misunderstand. The ML system would know when you want things digested to you or not. Right now companies are assuming this and forcing LLM interaction. But when properly done, the system would know based on your behavior or explicit prompts what you want and provide the service. If you're staring at a paragraph intently and confused, it might start highlighting common phrases or parts of the text/picture that might be hard to grasp and based on your reaction to that, it might start describing things via audio,tool tips,side pane,etc.. In other words, if you don't like how and when you're interacting with the LLM ecosystem, then that is an immature and failing ecosystem, in my vision this would be a largely solved problems, like how we interact with keyboards,mouse and touchscreens today.
  - devmor 2y ago
    No, I fully understand. I am saying that this type of system, that deprives the user of problem solving, is itself a problem. A detriment to the very essence of human intelligence.
    - notepad0x90 2y ago
      I just look at it as allowing the user to focus on problems that aren't already easily solved. Like using a calculator instead of calculating manually on paper.
      - devmor 2y ago
        But the scenario you described is one in which you need an equation explained to you. That is exactly the kind of scenario where it's important to do the calculation yourself to understand it. If you are expecting problems to be solved for you, you are not learning, you're just consuming content.
        notepad0x90 2y ago
        explained != solved