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Speaking from being very early on the train for Discord, it also had an extremely solid userbase right from the start because much of the early pre-marketing pu

Speaking from being very early on the train for Discord, it also had an extremely solid userbase right from the start because much of the early pre-marketing pull into it was for raid groups in the then-new Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn. People really needed a chat client to coordinate a big number of players and it was totally free, functional, and new on the scene. It spread a ton in the community and the people working on it were players as well from what I remember, though it's been a long time. So as the game grew in popularity, and everyone who was in a large group was starting to use Discord more, it cemented friend groups that formed in the increasingly popular game along with the Heavensward release and helped solidify a foundation in the gaming community imo.

metalliqaz 2y ago
Teamspeak and others were so well entrenched at the time. Wouldn't players of WoW, CS, etc. have brought those tools to FFXIV? What made that special?
- BobaFloutist 2y ago
  Discord's killer feature for my money has always been that ever user in a call gets a slider bar (and mute button) to control the volume they hear ever other individual user in the call Zoom, in 2025, still makes you wait for the host to figure out which of the 30 other people has a dog incessantly barking or is causing the echo or has horrible feedback, and then try to talk them through fixing it before finally muting them.
  - ZeWaka 2y ago
    We had that in Teamspeak/mumble/vent, but the chat functionality on those platforms were definitely an afterthought. Not a place you'd cultivate a community.
  - seanp2k2 2y ago
    Hilarious how in The Year of Our Lord 2025, so many video conferencing apps have not figured out how to implement something similar to the Dugan automatic microphone mixing algorithm. http://www.protechaudio.com/products/PDFFiles/DuganMixing.pdf http://www.protechaudio.com/products/PDFFiles/DuganMixing.pd... I mean, what do you want, it's only been around for 50 years.
- viccis 2y ago
  Its killer feature was how frictionless it was to adopt initially. If I sent you a Discord link, back then you could just click it and be going in under a minute. Same reason Zoom quickly took over video chat. It was so easy to use that you didn't have to convince your friends to sign up for it, you just sent them a link and it just worked.
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    You did have to sign up and login, right? I believe this is one of the major things that make it much less frictionless for people.
    - viccis 2y ago
      If I recall correctly, yes, but it was like, enter your email and username BAM now you have an account. It's not quite so easy anymore, partly because when you reach a certain size, it's all about controlling bots and whatnot.
      - johnisgood 2y ago
        Agreed. You now have to verify your phone number to have access to many guilds.
      - pydave 2y ago
        Yeah, didn't even verify emails. I got a surprise discord account back in 2015 because someone else used my email. I guess this xkcd[1] applies to younger people too. 1: https://xkcd.com/1279/ https://xkcd.com/1279/
        einsteinx2 2y ago
        I’ll never cease to be amazed that there’s an XKCD for literally everything. I bet there’s even one related to using the word literally as hyperbole…
- elictronic 2y ago
  Every action had more friction and the ability to post images was game changing.
- killerteddybear 2y ago
  Teamspeak had a ton of friction. When I was playing FFXIV and made my discord account, someone literally just sent a link in the text chat of our Free Company, I opened it in browser, made an account and used it right there immediately. To timestamp this, it was the summer of 2015, a little under a decade ago, iirc. Not sure about now, but back then Teamspeak meant installing an application, setting it all up, having someone in the Free Company (almost always more than the limit for a free server on TS at the time) pay for a server or self-host (even more friction). With Discord there was no debate or decisions, just one step: Click link, sign up.
- Henchman21 2y ago
  Those tools were all, comparatively, trash. Literally ALL of the gamer groups I was familiar with switched en masse. You can’t compare Mumble and Discord IMO. There was so much setup friction that anything was better than what we had at the time.
- chaorace 2y ago
  Gaming was becoming less and less the domain of the tech-savvy crowd, strongly curbing the public's appetite for such host-it-yourself services. Teamspeak/Mumble were already dying at the hands of (inferior) free/easy chat platforms like Steam & Skype, so it's really no wonder that Discord was able to swoop in and clobber all of them by simply being free and featureful.

metalliqaz 2y ago

Teamspeak and others were so well entrenched at the time. Wouldn't players of WoW, CS, etc. have brought those tools to FFXIV? What made that special?

BobaFloutist 2y ago
Discord's killer feature for my money has always been that ever user in a call gets a slider bar (and mute button) to control the volume they hear ever other individual user in the call Zoom, in 2025, still makes you wait for the host to figure out which of the 30 other people has a dog incessantly barking or is causing the echo or has horrible feedback, and then try to talk them through fixing it before finally muting them.
- ZeWaka 2y ago
  We had that in Teamspeak/mumble/vent, but the chat functionality on those platforms were definitely an afterthought. Not a place you'd cultivate a community.
- seanp2k2 2y ago
  Hilarious how in The Year of Our Lord 2025, so many video conferencing apps have not figured out how to implement something similar to the Dugan automatic microphone mixing algorithm. http://www.protechaudio.com/products/PDFFiles/DuganMixing.pdf http://www.protechaudio.com/products/PDFFiles/DuganMixing.pd... I mean, what do you want, it's only been around for 50 years.
viccis 2y ago
Its killer feature was how frictionless it was to adopt initially. If I sent you a Discord link, back then you could just click it and be going in under a minute. Same reason Zoom quickly took over video chat. It was so easy to use that you didn't have to convince your friends to sign up for it, you just sent them a link and it just worked.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  You did have to sign up and login, right? I believe this is one of the major things that make it much less frictionless for people.
  - viccis 2y ago
    If I recall correctly, yes, but it was like, enter your email and username BAM now you have an account. It's not quite so easy anymore, partly because when you reach a certain size, it's all about controlling bots and whatnot.
    - johnisgood 2y ago
      Agreed. You now have to verify your phone number to have access to many guilds.
    - pydave 2y ago
      Yeah, didn't even verify emails. I got a surprise discord account back in 2015 because someone else used my email. I guess this xkcd[1] applies to younger people too. 1: https://xkcd.com/1279/ https://xkcd.com/1279/
      - einsteinx2 2y ago
        I’ll never cease to be amazed that there’s an XKCD for literally everything. I bet there’s even one related to using the word literally as hyperbole…
elictronic 2y ago
Every action had more friction and the ability to post images was game changing.
killerteddybear 2y ago
Teamspeak had a ton of friction. When I was playing FFXIV and made my discord account, someone literally just sent a link in the text chat of our Free Company, I opened it in browser, made an account and used it right there immediately. To timestamp this, it was the summer of 2015, a little under a decade ago, iirc. Not sure about now, but back then Teamspeak meant installing an application, setting it all up, having someone in the Free Company (almost always more than the limit for a free server on TS at the time) pay for a server or self-host (even more friction). With Discord there was no debate or decisions, just one step: Click link, sign up.
Henchman21 2y ago
Those tools were all, comparatively, trash. Literally ALL of the gamer groups I was familiar with switched en masse. You can’t compare Mumble and Discord IMO. There was so much setup friction that anything was better than what we had at the time.
chaorace 2y ago
Gaming was becoming less and less the domain of the tech-savvy crowd, strongly curbing the public's appetite for such host-it-yourself services. Teamspeak/Mumble were already dying at the hands of (inferior) free/easy chat platforms like Steam & Skype, so it's really no wonder that Discord was able to swoop in and clobber all of them by simply being free and featureful.