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I can't imagine not seeing the value in using the MS stack in the enterprise world.

by bongodongobob 2y ago

esafak 2y ago
I see value in avoiding it. Avoiding junk is commonsense no?
- 999900000999 2y ago
  Not everyone is a Linux user, or willing to become one. You can install Ubuntu on 100 Thinkpads and have that be the official OS of your company. The tech folks will love it, but Mr Smith in accounting will be angry and confused. QuickBooks doesn't work, how will he get anything done ? He doesn't want an open source alternative. He wants QuickBooks.
  - bongodongobob 2y ago
    This is absolutely on point. Every time Microsoft comes up, HN thinks you can just replace an orgs 30 year old stack with OSS. It's ridiculous and shows the narrow experience of this crowd with their small teams.
    - 999900000999 2y ago
      Linux still doesn't have a lot of one to one equivalents for Microsoft software. If Mr Smith in accounting likes using QuickBooks and Excel, you can't just tell him it's time to switch to libre office. I definitely think Linux is better for personal usage, but I don't expect most companies to ever realistically roll it out to every desktop.
      - lostmsu 2y ago
        I still did not find a descent email client. What could be more personal than that?
        999900000999 2y ago
        I only use web clients aside from my phones. Are you really in a situation where you need to read emails offline ?
        lostmsu 2y ago
        I have multiple accounts.
Brian_K_White 2y ago
What does value in the product have to do with audits? It makes no sense to be happy about audits, even successfully passing them, regardless how much value you get out of whatever product they are attached to. The two things have no bearing on each other. By all means, value the product greatly. This excusing is exactly what I was talking about. It's kind of disturbing and sick even to be so cooperative with a bully. It's one thing to do what you gotta do and put up with what you gotta put up with, but to actually not see a problem and derive personal sense of worth from some shop owner going through your pockets to satisfy themselves that you didn't steal anything is just bizarre. You should not be happy that the shop owner said "looks like you didn't steal from me today".

I can't imagine not seeing the value in using the MS stack in the enterprise world.

esafak 2y ago

I see value in avoiding it. Avoiding junk is commonsense no?

999900000999 2y ago
Not everyone is a Linux user, or willing to become one. You can install Ubuntu on 100 Thinkpads and have that be the official OS of your company. The tech folks will love it, but Mr Smith in accounting will be angry and confused. QuickBooks doesn't work, how will he get anything done ? He doesn't want an open source alternative. He wants QuickBooks.
- bongodongobob 2y ago
  This is absolutely on point. Every time Microsoft comes up, HN thinks you can just replace an orgs 30 year old stack with OSS. It's ridiculous and shows the narrow experience of this crowd with their small teams.
  - 999900000999 2y ago
    Linux still doesn't have a lot of one to one equivalents for Microsoft software. If Mr Smith in accounting likes using QuickBooks and Excel, you can't just tell him it's time to switch to libre office. I definitely think Linux is better for personal usage, but I don't expect most companies to ever realistically roll it out to every desktop.
    - lostmsu 2y ago
      I still did not find a descent email client. What could be more personal than that?
      - 999900000999 2y ago
        I only use web clients aside from my phones. Are you really in a situation where you need to read emails offline ?
        lostmsu 2y ago
        I have multiple accounts.

Brian_K_White 2y ago

What does value in the product have to do with audits? It makes no sense to be happy about audits, even successfully passing them, regardless how much value you get out of whatever product they are attached to. The two things have no bearing on each other. By all means, value the product greatly. This excusing is exactly what I was talking about. It's kind of disturbing and sick even to be so cooperative with a bully. It's one thing to do what you gotta do and put up with what you gotta put up with, but to actually not see a problem and derive personal sense of worth from some shop owner going through your pockets to satisfy themselves that you didn't steal anything is just bizarre. You should not be happy that the shop owner said "looks like you didn't steal from me today".