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Man someone has gotta say it. Thank you. This is not acceptable and does not solve the root problem. If anything it creates so many more. Stupid government. The

Man someone has gotta say it. Thank you. This is not acceptable and does not solve the root problem. If anything it creates so many more. Stupid government. They have to get rid of the destructive species once and for all. Let the Beavers have the human houses, whatever it takes, just get the humans away from earth before they make the place uninhabitable for all.

foobarian 2y ago
> does not solve the root problem It kind of does! :-) There is a stream behind our yard and one year beavers built a dam. They were hard to spot in the daytime but we caught them at night with trailcams. They are very cute but surprisingly big and round. Of course they caused a ton of damage to trees around the trail, though whether that's good or bad depends on whether you were attached to those trees or not. We enjoyed the process of watching the nature unfold.
- sophacles 2y ago
  Read it again - they aren't ranting about beavers.
- hmmokidk 2y ago
  If you’re arguing for untouched by wildlife perfect trails just go to Disneyland. If we are in agreement then please accept my humble high five.
  - dboreham 2y ago
    There are cats living in Disneyland, and many ducks.
    - hmmokidk 2y ago
      Nuke em
- II2II 2y ago
  > Of course they caused a ton of damage to trees around the trail, though whether that's good or bad depends on whether you were attached to those trees or not. I've encountered relatively few people who were concerned about the damage to trees. The typical concern is over damage to land. Any animal than engineers their environment, including both beavers and humans, has a disproportionate ability to alter land use. That includes humancentric development and natural ecosystems. I am not going to claim that beavers are either good or bad. I am going to point out that humans are as much a part of nature as beavers, so preserving natural ecosystems is almost always in our favour. Yet there are circumstances where managing is likely a better approach than preserving, simply because nature can throw nasty things our way too. (We are, for example, not to eager to let rats thrive in our cities.)
michaelhoney 2y ago
maybe humans aren't the only species on the planet

foobarian 2y ago

> does not solve the root problem It kind of does! :-) There is a stream behind our yard and one year beavers built a dam. They were hard to spot in the daytime but we caught them at night with trailcams. They are very cute but surprisingly big and round. Of course they caused a ton of damage to trees around the trail, though whether that's good or bad depends on whether you were attached to those trees or not. We enjoyed the process of watching the nature unfold.

sophacles 2y ago
Read it again - they aren't ranting about beavers.
hmmokidk 2y ago
If you’re arguing for untouched by wildlife perfect trails just go to Disneyland. If we are in agreement then please accept my humble high five.
- dboreham 2y ago
  There are cats living in Disneyland, and many ducks.
  - hmmokidk 2y ago
    Nuke em
II2II 2y ago
> Of course they caused a ton of damage to trees around the trail, though whether that's good or bad depends on whether you were attached to those trees or not. I've encountered relatively few people who were concerned about the damage to trees. The typical concern is over damage to land. Any animal than engineers their environment, including both beavers and humans, has a disproportionate ability to alter land use. That includes humancentric development and natural ecosystems. I am not going to claim that beavers are either good or bad. I am going to point out that humans are as much a part of nature as beavers, so preserving natural ecosystems is almost always in our favour. Yet there are circumstances where managing is likely a better approach than preserving, simply because nature can throw nasty things our way too. (We are, for example, not to eager to let rats thrive in our cities.)

michaelhoney 2y ago

maybe humans aren't the only species on the planet