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Not GP, but in my opinion the reason why the license restriction is so important is that otherwise very few people will be able to try it. Huggingface or other

by pama 2y ago

Not GP, but in my opinion the reason why the license restriction is so important is that otherwise very few people will be able to try it. Huggingface or other commercial providers cannot put it up online (even if they didnt charge for the use, these entities might benefit from publicity so they might need to negotiate with AMD). I am not sure if this model will make it to the lmsys leaderboard either unless AMD helps provide an API endpoint and allows them to use it. If you install it in an HPC center for non-industry researchers you have to trust the new AMD codes (few people will do a serious infosec analysis on them), and you have to make sure you exclude people that might have commercial interests (say a student with a startup). It is not the license only that is slowing things down, but if the license was more general the code would develop more smoothly, and things like vllm might start to support it real soon.

bayindirh 2y ago
The license doesn't restrict hosting it (and explicitly allows 3rd party access), but might require a license wall to click through. I'm not sure where did you infer that from. I'm not an AMD employee, so I can't tell about their API access. People here see student startups, I see tons of non-commercial research networks from where I sit. So the license is not absurd from where I look.
- pama 2y ago
  Maybe strict compliance is not as big a threat for academic institutions. A wall ot click-through text does not technically limit liabilities against good lawyers on the other side, so you might need better measures to ensure compliance in a setting where some users might have commercial interests. To be clear, I am happy AMD is trying to get in the game. I just dont feel this model will gain as much use as it would have had with a permissive license and I hope that AMD will switch to better licenses (like Qwen or Llama models have also done in the past).

by pama 2y ago

bayindirh 2y ago

The license doesn't restrict hosting it (and explicitly allows 3rd party access), but might require a license wall to click through. I'm not sure where did you infer that from. I'm not an AMD employee, so I can't tell about their API access. People here see student startups, I see tons of non-commercial research networks from where I sit. So the license is not absurd from where I look.

pama 2y ago
Maybe strict compliance is not as big a threat for academic institutions. A wall ot click-through text does not technically limit liabilities against good lawyers on the other side, so you might need better measures to ensure compliance in a setting where some users might have commercial interests. To be clear, I am happy AMD is trying to get in the game. I just dont feel this model will gain as much use as it would have had with a permissive license and I hope that AMD will switch to better licenses (like Qwen or Llama models have also done in the past).