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But so is the US. More fascist than dictatorship. But certainly no respect for human rights. I mean, have you been asleep the last decade? They're China but wit

But so is the US. More fascist than dictatorship. But certainly no respect for human rights. I mean, have you been asleep the last decade? They're China but with slicker PR. But even more so because Australia is a two product, two customer economy. One of those customers is China. The other is not the US. I'll let you look it up.

gadders 14y ago
I don't think your comment really bares any relation to reality. The US isn't perfect, but actually has elections, an independent judiciary, doesn't lock up dissidents, doesn't make women forcibly abort their babies, etc etc.
- retrogradeorbit 14y ago
  Ok. You think China is a dictatorship. It is not. The merit of US elections needs to be demonstrated. Not much changed after the last one. Their judiciary is not 'independent'. Judges are not appointed for life so feather their post judicial nest with pro-corporate rulings. It does indeed lock up dissidents. It has the highest incarceration rate per capita of any nation. I'll give you the infanticide point. I mean does it really come down to which country is less rotten? We can be friends with both. I just don't think we'll be given the chance to.
taligent 14y ago
What you are talking about is complete nonsense. http://www.dfat.gov.au/publications/trade/trade-at-a-glance-2011.html http://www.dfat.gov.au/publications/trade/trade-at-a-glance-... China makes up only 22.6% of our trade exports. And at the end of the day the US is still a stable democracy with a free press, free speech and core values very closely aligned to Australia.
- retrogradeorbit 14y ago
  DFAT numbers contradict other ABS data. I cite the following "complete nonsense": http://www.lighthouseinvestmentmanagement.com/2012/01/05/the-2-product-2-customer-wonder-called-australia/ http://www.lighthouseinvestmentmanagement.com/2012/01/05/the... You might also find this eight part series "complete nonsense": http://theconversation.edu.au/why-australias-trade-relationship-with-china-remains-at-ground-level-3852 http://theconversation.edu.au/why-australias-trade-relations...

gadders 14y ago

I don't think your comment really bares any relation to reality. The US isn't perfect, but actually has elections, an independent judiciary, doesn't lock up dissidents, doesn't make women forcibly abort their babies, etc etc.

retrogradeorbit 14y ago
Ok. You think China is a dictatorship. It is not. The merit of US elections needs to be demonstrated. Not much changed after the last one. Their judiciary is not 'independent'. Judges are not appointed for life so feather their post judicial nest with pro-corporate rulings. It does indeed lock up dissidents. It has the highest incarceration rate per capita of any nation. I'll give you the infanticide point. I mean does it really come down to which country is less rotten? We can be friends with both. I just don't think we'll be given the chance to.

taligent 14y ago

What you are talking about is complete nonsense. http://www.dfat.gov.au/publications/trade/trade-at-a-glance-2011.html http://www.dfat.gov.au/publications/trade/trade-at-a-glance-... China makes up only 22.6% of our trade exports. And at the end of the day the US is still a stable democracy with a free press, free speech and core values very closely aligned to Australia.

retrogradeorbit 14y ago
DFAT numbers contradict other ABS data. I cite the following "complete nonsense": http://www.lighthouseinvestmentmanagement.com/2012/01/05/the-2-product-2-customer-wonder-called-australia/ http://www.lighthouseinvestmentmanagement.com/2012/01/05/the... You might also find this eight part series "complete nonsense": http://theconversation.edu.au/why-australias-trade-relationship-with-china-remains-at-ground-level-3852 http://theconversation.edu.au/why-australias-trade-relations...