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Stuff marked [dead] on the first page of /newest right now: - A Chrome extension for tracking dramas. It appears to have been re-submitted, as the link was pre

Stuff marked [dead] on the first page of /newest right now: - A Chrome extension for tracking dramas. It appears to have been re-submitted, as the link was previously shared just yesterday (and it was dead, too), but this particular author has a lot of dead links which seems peculiar. - Questionnaire for a school project. I don't know what this is because it's a Google docs link and I'm not going to open it. But also because the submitter doesn't even bother mentioning what the "chosen subject" is. I don't really care much that this is dead. - "Trillion Ton Iceberg, Worlds Largest, Crashes into South Georgia" a youtube video which is hardly a video since it's just a bunch of AI generated illustrations and appears to be fairly grandiose but low on actual sources and info. meh - A link to a tweet from an account that "applies AI" to put your face on a ballerina animation. Yawn. - Spam for a "IT solutions for healthcare" company. - A link submitted by someone who has all dead submissions on their profile. Uhmm... - Spam to a blog about AI, I guess. All in all, I'm setting showdead back to no again. P.S. Meanwhile, I counted about 5 or 6 links sent from newly created users which are there happily unflagged.

bookaway 2y ago
Your impatience has betrayed you. Some examples from the next pages, that caused me to write this post: [dead] Show HN: Try QwQ-32B for Free: Advanced AI Reasoning Model (qwq-32b.net) [dead] Show HN: I made an AI platform that combines GPT-4o, Claude, DeepSeek and more (typethinkai.com) [dead] Some basic primitives for PHP OpenAI Client (github.com/assistantengine) [dead] Benchmark on Multi-Embodiment Intelligence Normative Data for Robot Manipulation (arxiv.org) [dead] Using "tools" support (or function calling) with LangchainJS and Ollama (hashnode.dev)
- genezeta 2y ago
  So... except for the arxiv one, all AI related stuff. Personally I don't flag those but the overabundance of links about that can easily become tiring for people, I'd guess.
  - bookaway 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - genezeta 2y ago
      I don't find it hilarious. It's just an observation that all those are AI related. I never claimed that people "investigate" the links and kill them. But I do believe that if enough people get tired of a certain subject, they will flag such links without bothering to even click them. Then again, you did assume that this was done automatically. I think I can be allowed to assume that it's just other users flagging stuff they don't like.
      - bookaway 2y ago
        >Then again, you did assume that this was done automatically. If you see multiple [dead] stories that are minutes old by different users that have non-clickbait tech titles it is not unreasonable to think auto-moderation is a more likely explanation than someone manually killing every single post in near real-time by keeping a filter algorithm in their head and manually checking whether each expression in that algorithm is true or false. >I don't find it hilarious. If YC was asking for AI startup submissions but HN was auto-killing noobie AI submissions I would find that hilarious in a black comedy sense. Pity we don't share the same absurdist humor.
      - yorwba 2y ago
        If it's [dead] but not [flagged], it was killed automatically without users flagging it. Conversely, if it's [flagged] but not [dead], it was killed by users and then revived by other users vouching for it or through moderator action.
- yorwba 2y ago
  The QwQ one is a graft. (Whenever a new AI model is released, someone will register a related domain name, throw up a templated website and try to milk the hype.) TypeThinkAI also looks like a graft, but at least they're honest about just being a wrapper around models produced by others? I vouched for one of the AssistantEngine links because although the author did submit a bit too many links, the project might deserve a chance. I also vouched for the arXiv paper. hashnode.dev has been banned for a long time, probably because spammers use it a lot.
- dang 2y ago
  One was killed because the account was banned for being part of a spam ring. One was killed because the account, while not banned, is breaking this guideline: "Please don't use HN primarily for promotion." (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) One was killed because the site is banned on HN (in this case, because it has been the source of too many low-quality posts and too much promotional behavior). Two look like false positives by spam filters, though it's not so easy to be sure. I've unkilled those now: Show HN: I made an AI platform that combines GPT-4o, Claude, DeepSeek and more - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43278331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43278331 Benchmark on Multi-Embodiment Intelligence Normative Data for Robot Manipulation - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43278119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43278119
dredmorbius 2y ago
NB: if you come across a profile whose submissions or comments are all "dead", they've likely been banned or shadowbanned. You can use the "replies" endpoint to see if dang (or one of the other/earlier mods: sctb or pg) have replied directly to the user with a ban message, e.g.: https://news.ycombinator.com/replies?id=genezeta&by=dang Or as a link: <https://news.ycombinator.com/replies?id=genezeta&by=dang https://news.ycombinator.com/replies?id=genezeta&by=dang> (This will show any replies by dang to you, genezeta, not necessarily ban notices.) I've just tried that on the first non-green HN userID for a "[dead]" submission the New queue, with nothing showing, so it's a bit hit-or-miss. Alternatively you can look at the member's submissions under their profile page. Patterns such as constantly submitting the same set of domains, especially if self-promotional, will stand out. That userID I'd checked above ... seems to have a limited range of sites they're interested in submitting: <https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=adib_zouiten1 https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=adib_zouiten1> Some sites are banned due to impenetrable paywalls. 404 Media is one such (with several submission in the queue presently): <https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co>
- genezeta 2y ago
  Thanks.

bookaway 2y ago

Your impatience has betrayed you. Some examples from the next pages, that caused me to write this post: [dead] Show HN: Try QwQ-32B for Free: Advanced AI Reasoning Model (qwq-32b.net) [dead] Show HN: I made an AI platform that combines GPT-4o, Claude, DeepSeek and more (typethinkai.com) [dead] Some basic primitives for PHP OpenAI Client (github.com/assistantengine) [dead] Benchmark on Multi-Embodiment Intelligence Normative Data for Robot Manipulation (arxiv.org) [dead] Using "tools" support (or function calling) with LangchainJS and Ollama (hashnode.dev)

genezeta 2y ago
So... except for the arxiv one, all AI related stuff. Personally I don't flag those but the overabundance of links about that can easily become tiring for people, I'd guess.
- bookaway 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - genezeta 2y ago
    I don't find it hilarious. It's just an observation that all those are AI related. I never claimed that people "investigate" the links and kill them. But I do believe that if enough people get tired of a certain subject, they will flag such links without bothering to even click them. Then again, you did assume that this was done automatically. I think I can be allowed to assume that it's just other users flagging stuff they don't like.
    - bookaway 2y ago
      >Then again, you did assume that this was done automatically. If you see multiple [dead] stories that are minutes old by different users that have non-clickbait tech titles it is not unreasonable to think auto-moderation is a more likely explanation than someone manually killing every single post in near real-time by keeping a filter algorithm in their head and manually checking whether each expression in that algorithm is true or false. >I don't find it hilarious. If YC was asking for AI startup submissions but HN was auto-killing noobie AI submissions I would find that hilarious in a black comedy sense. Pity we don't share the same absurdist humor.
    - yorwba 2y ago
      If it's [dead] but not [flagged], it was killed automatically without users flagging it. Conversely, if it's [flagged] but not [dead], it was killed by users and then revived by other users vouching for it or through moderator action.
yorwba 2y ago
The QwQ one is a graft. (Whenever a new AI model is released, someone will register a related domain name, throw up a templated website and try to milk the hype.) TypeThinkAI also looks like a graft, but at least they're honest about just being a wrapper around models produced by others? I vouched for one of the AssistantEngine links because although the author did submit a bit too many links, the project might deserve a chance. I also vouched for the arXiv paper. hashnode.dev has been banned for a long time, probably because spammers use it a lot.
dang 2y ago
One was killed because the account was banned for being part of a spam ring. One was killed because the account, while not banned, is breaking this guideline: "Please don't use HN primarily for promotion." (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) One was killed because the site is banned on HN (in this case, because it has been the source of too many low-quality posts and too much promotional behavior). Two look like false positives by spam filters, though it's not so easy to be sure. I've unkilled those now: Show HN: I made an AI platform that combines GPT-4o, Claude, DeepSeek and more - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43278331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43278331 Benchmark on Multi-Embodiment Intelligence Normative Data for Robot Manipulation - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43278119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43278119

dredmorbius 2y ago

NB: if you come across a profile whose submissions or comments are all "dead", they've likely been banned or shadowbanned. You can use the "replies" endpoint to see if dang (or one of the other/earlier mods: sctb or pg) have replied directly to the user with a ban message, e.g.: https://news.ycombinator.com/replies?id=genezeta&by=dang Or as a link: <https://news.ycombinator.com/replies?id=genezeta&by=dang https://news.ycombinator.com/replies?id=genezeta&by=dang> (This will show any replies by dang to you, genezeta, not necessarily ban notices.) I've just tried that on the first non-green HN userID for a "[dead]" submission the New queue, with nothing showing, so it's a bit hit-or-miss. Alternatively you can look at the member's submissions under their profile page. Patterns such as constantly submitting the same set of domains, especially if self-promotional, will stand out. That userID I'd checked above ... seems to have a limited range of sites they're interested in submitting: <https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=adib_zouiten1 https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=adib_zouiten1> Some sites are banned due to impenetrable paywalls. 404 Media is one such (with several submission in the queue presently): <https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=404media.co>

genezeta 2y ago
Thanks.