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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q This is what's going on ^, people like you and me cannot agree on anyth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q This is what's going on ^, people like you and me cannot agree on anything because whatever happens truth has no value whatsoever, there are two groups of people, being fed two flavors of reality

dredmorbius 2y ago
Sorry, but how does that video (I'm quite familiar with it) explain your argument? For that matter, what is your argument? You're being quite vague.
- lm28469 2y ago
  Half of the US think trump is saving them, the other half think we're witnessing the end of the republic. Depending on which bubble you live in you get bombarded with information going your way. > How does his behaviour in this administration differ markedly from his first? Was there a government purge during the first term ? Did we have 20 years old non vetted civilians getting access to critical systems ? Did we have the entire tech sector rallying behind trump ? Did we have a foreign billionaire melding with internal politics straight from the oval office ? No, we had an old man selling cans of beans from the oval office: https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f1091ef3075b61a6e553443/4:3/w_959,h_719,c_limit/Gessen-Goya.jpg https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f1091ef3075b61a6e553443/... We had people who mistook the "Four Seasons Hotel" with "Four Seasons Total Landscaping": https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Four_Seasons_Total_Landscaping_press_conference.jpeg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Four_Seasons_... It was a clown show with minor influence on the long term direction of the US and the world, it's hardly comparable to what we're witnessing right now.
  - dredmorbius 2y ago
    If you care for a broader view, you can step outside the US media bubble, as I (being of course based on Altair IV) do frequently. The US media supportive of the present administration are a distinct anomaly globally. There were numerous signs of pro-Russian sentiments in the first term, as well as a well-documented set in the Mueller report (see: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report#Conspiracy_or_coordination_vs_collusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report#Conspiracy_or_c...> for an overview), misrepresentations and denials notwithstanding. Your list is grossly deficient and spurious.
  - dredmorbius 2y ago
    And, apparently the video you'd linked ... has nothing at all to do with your argument, as you failed to address my question on that point.
    - lm28469 2y ago
      There is a part of the video that is exactly about what we're going through: information overload to the point that most people can't form an opinion, you have your extreme position, I have mine, they're mutually exclusive yet we both think we're right
      - dredmorbius 2y ago
        Thanks. That could have been presented far more succinctly than with a meandering interview. And is a topic I'm quite familiar with. Countermeasure: cheap, fast, regret-free rejection: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37440218 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37440218>
  - affinepplan 2y ago
    > Depending on which bubble you live in you get bombarded with information going your way. ok but one of the bubbles lives in reality, and the information bombardment is of things that actually happen. the other bubble is mostly just hateful delusion

dredmorbius 2y ago

Sorry, but how does that video (I'm quite familiar with it) explain your argument? For that matter, what is your argument? You're being quite vague.

lm28469 2y ago
Half of the US think trump is saving them, the other half think we're witnessing the end of the republic. Depending on which bubble you live in you get bombarded with information going your way. > How does his behaviour in this administration differ markedly from his first? Was there a government purge during the first term ? Did we have 20 years old non vetted civilians getting access to critical systems ? Did we have the entire tech sector rallying behind trump ? Did we have a foreign billionaire melding with internal politics straight from the oval office ? No, we had an old man selling cans of beans from the oval office: https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f1091ef3075b61a6e553443/4:3/w_959,h_719,c_limit/Gessen-Goya.jpg https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f1091ef3075b61a6e553443/... We had people who mistook the "Four Seasons Hotel" with "Four Seasons Total Landscaping": https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Four_Seasons_Total_Landscaping_press_conference.jpeg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/Four_Seasons_... It was a clown show with minor influence on the long term direction of the US and the world, it's hardly comparable to what we're witnessing right now.
- dredmorbius 2y ago
  If you care for a broader view, you can step outside the US media bubble, as I (being of course based on Altair IV) do frequently. The US media supportive of the present administration are a distinct anomaly globally. There were numerous signs of pro-Russian sentiments in the first term, as well as a well-documented set in the Mueller report (see: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report#Conspiracy_or_coordination_vs_collusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report#Conspiracy_or_c...> for an overview), misrepresentations and denials notwithstanding. Your list is grossly deficient and spurious.
- dredmorbius 2y ago
  And, apparently the video you'd linked ... has nothing at all to do with your argument, as you failed to address my question on that point.
  - lm28469 2y ago
    There is a part of the video that is exactly about what we're going through: information overload to the point that most people can't form an opinion, you have your extreme position, I have mine, they're mutually exclusive yet we both think we're right
    - dredmorbius 2y ago
      Thanks. That could have been presented far more succinctly than with a meandering interview. And is a topic I'm quite familiar with. Countermeasure: cheap, fast, regret-free rejection: <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37440218 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37440218>
- affinepplan 2y ago
  > Depending on which bubble you live in you get bombarded with information going your way. ok but one of the bubbles lives in reality, and the information bombardment is of things that actually happen. the other bubble is mostly just hateful delusion