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Lol, the design of discord is identical to about 9000 chat apps no?

by wooger 2y ago

bryanhogan 2y ago
There really is no other app in this space on the same quality as Discord. Discord was born out of Skype, Teamspeak and similar being so awful to use. Discord took the complaints from these and made a product which was the best version of them all.
- grumple 2y ago
  Discord has always seemed like a Slack clone with better voice chat to me.
  - Cthulhu_ 2y ago
    With an emphasis on the gaming space and open communities, whereas Slack focused on corporate and closed communities. I've been in the Go community for a while and they had to write a bot to get access to it (as Slack works invite only) and iirc had to work with Slack engineers to work with the scale they had. Meanwhile Discord's success is down to it being open, anyone can create a new channel and get instant access to things like voice chat. Of course, this has its downside, and I'm sure Slack deals with a lot of abuse, ranging from porn to doxxing to it being used as a C&C server.
    - grumple 2y ago
      I think it’s a good product. The problem with all these chat apps (as companies to invest in) is there’s no moat; as soon as a more convenient or better option comes along, people will switch. There’s not a big integrated community or advantage to sticking to one app. Which doesn’t mean they can’t and won’t make plenty of money, just that I don’t buy into any hype around them.
- prmoustache 2y ago
  They must have been super crappy them because Discord is terrible to see and terrible to use.
  - Aachen 2y ago
    All clans' voice chats that I've been in were via Mumble, hosted on the server of whoever was the Linux nerd of the clan (nowadays that's me). No complaints about that software, but I heard lots about Skype and Teamspeak indeed. Mumble also uses TLS for encryption and authentication so it was more secure than anything else at the time as well, and more secure than Discord because the admin could maybe listen in but that's another team member and not a stranger working for a commercial entity I hate the Discord UI/UX as well (e.g.: sluggish add hell; need to press a few specific pixels on mobile to show the mute button and other controls that automatically fade out if you don't touch them for 2 seconds) but apparently what they do well is filtering out super loud eating noises, or that's what a friend said when I asked them to mute when they were eating crisps with the mic pointed directly at it as well as blowing on the mic with every breath. Apparently they never got complaints doing that on Discord I feel like an old person when muttering something about mute button etiquette to myself while writing this comment. If machine learning can fix that (if it doesn't require proprietary datasets from storing millions of peoples' conversations), I should let it ^^'
- brulard 2y ago
  Quality? I see it as extremely bloated, very sluggish and clunky (on M3 macbook pro), search sucks bad and I can not figure out how I should keep track of multiple chained replies (like threads in slack). It's not as bad as teams, but talking about quality seems out of place.
  - Jarwain 2y ago
    Discord also has threads, if the server has enabled it. I personally haven't really encountered performance issues running discord
- delfinom 2y ago
  I feel like Discord was born out of Slack. Slack was actually once popular for gaming groups but they decided they didn't want to capture that space and focused on business only. Teamspeak and Ventrilo were the alternatives and while they are still solid and arguably still popular with certain groups, they were a bit behind the times.
- RAM-bunctious 2y ago
  'Awful' seems awfully subjective there. Can Skype even reasonably be grouped with Teamspeak? If all you want to do is quickly chat with a group, is Discord not actually far more annoying, all else equal? Windows isn't beating out Linux in the desktop space because Linux is awful. Network effects are much more significant.

Lol, the design of discord is identical to about 9000 chat apps no?

by wooger 2y ago

Lol, the design of discord is identical to about 9000 chat apps no?

There really is no other app in this space on the same quality as Discord. Discord was born out of Skype, Teamspeak and similar being so awful to use. Discord took the complaints from these and made a product which was the best version of them all.

grumple 2y ago
Discord has always seemed like a Slack clone with better voice chat to me.
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  With an emphasis on the gaming space and open communities, whereas Slack focused on corporate and closed communities. I've been in the Go community for a while and they had to write a bot to get access to it (as Slack works invite only) and iirc had to work with Slack engineers to work with the scale they had. Meanwhile Discord's success is down to it being open, anyone can create a new channel and get instant access to things like voice chat. Of course, this has its downside, and I'm sure Slack deals with a lot of abuse, ranging from porn to doxxing to it being used as a C&C server.
  - grumple 2y ago
    I think it’s a good product. The problem with all these chat apps (as companies to invest in) is there’s no moat; as soon as a more convenient or better option comes along, people will switch. There’s not a big integrated community or advantage to sticking to one app. Which doesn’t mean they can’t and won’t make plenty of money, just that I don’t buy into any hype around them.
prmoustache 2y ago
They must have been super crappy them because Discord is terrible to see and terrible to use.
- Aachen 2y ago
  All clans' voice chats that I've been in were via Mumble, hosted on the server of whoever was the Linux nerd of the clan (nowadays that's me). No complaints about that software, but I heard lots about Skype and Teamspeak indeed. Mumble also uses TLS for encryption and authentication so it was more secure than anything else at the time as well, and more secure than Discord because the admin could maybe listen in but that's another team member and not a stranger working for a commercial entity I hate the Discord UI/UX as well (e.g.: sluggish add hell; need to press a few specific pixels on mobile to show the mute button and other controls that automatically fade out if you don't touch them for 2 seconds) but apparently what they do well is filtering out super loud eating noises, or that's what a friend said when I asked them to mute when they were eating crisps with the mic pointed directly at it as well as blowing on the mic with every breath. Apparently they never got complaints doing that on Discord I feel like an old person when muttering something about mute button etiquette to myself while writing this comment. If machine learning can fix that (if it doesn't require proprietary datasets from storing millions of peoples' conversations), I should let it ^^'
brulard 2y ago
Quality? I see it as extremely bloated, very sluggish and clunky (on M3 macbook pro), search sucks bad and I can not figure out how I should keep track of multiple chained replies (like threads in slack). It's not as bad as teams, but talking about quality seems out of place.
- Jarwain 2y ago
  Discord also has threads, if the server has enabled it. I personally haven't really encountered performance issues running discord
delfinom 2y ago
I feel like Discord was born out of Slack. Slack was actually once popular for gaming groups but they decided they didn't want to capture that space and focused on business only. Teamspeak and Ventrilo were the alternatives and while they are still solid and arguably still popular with certain groups, they were a bit behind the times.
RAM-bunctious 2y ago
'Awful' seems awfully subjective there. Can Skype even reasonably be grouped with Teamspeak? If all you want to do is quickly chat with a group, is Discord not actually far more annoying, all else equal? Windows isn't beating out Linux in the desktop space because Linux is awful. Network effects are much more significant.