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> The sovereignity to lie to the own population? Well, yeah. For example, Trump and his administration clearly lies about a lot of stuff, and it's fine and dan

by diggan 2y ago

> The sovereignity to lie to the own population? Well, yeah. For example, Trump and his administration clearly lies about a lot of stuff, and it's fine and dandy if foreign news agencies report on these lies, no one bats an eye about that. But if you started seeing campaigns from German government for example, to "offer a glimpse of truth" to the US citizens, I think most nations would react negatively towards something like that, and most likely call it propaganda, even though it would actually be "spreading the truth". Basically, what the US has been doing to the world for a long time ("Spreading democracy") is more and more seen as an act against a country's own sovereignty.

lukan 2y ago
Offering data on the germans embassy site about the foreign government (they do, or rather in the AA, Auswärtiges Amt) is not really the same as financing and organizing political campaings in other countries. And we are still talking about air quality sensor data ..
- diggan 2y ago
  Yeah, no I understand it sounds trivial and "it's just air quality sensor data" but it's less about what the actual data is about, and more about the intention of publishing something. I agree that the quest for truth should always trump whatever politics are going on in a country, but the common person doesn't really have that "science" mindset so a lot of the population at large would see something like that as infringement on sovereignty, no matter if what's being spread is true or not.
  - lukan 2y ago
    "see something like that as infringement on sovereignty" I would ask the people. The stories shared here from Shanghai seem to indicate support of knowing about their air quality. They are the ones to breath it.
johnisgood 2y ago
> I think most nations would react negatively towards something like that, and most likely call it propaganda, even though it would actually be "spreading the truth". Does this apply to RT?

by diggan 2y ago

lukan 2y ago

Offering data on the germans embassy site about the foreign government (they do, or rather in the AA, Auswärtiges Amt) is not really the same as financing and organizing political campaings in other countries. And we are still talking about air quality sensor data ..

diggan 2y ago
Yeah, no I understand it sounds trivial and "it's just air quality sensor data" but it's less about what the actual data is about, and more about the intention of publishing something. I agree that the quest for truth should always trump whatever politics are going on in a country, but the common person doesn't really have that "science" mindset so a lot of the population at large would see something like that as infringement on sovereignty, no matter if what's being spread is true or not.
- lukan 2y ago
  "see something like that as infringement on sovereignty" I would ask the people. The stories shared here from Shanghai seem to indicate support of knowing about their air quality. They are the ones to breath it.

johnisgood 2y ago

> I think most nations would react negatively towards something like that, and most likely call it propaganda, even though it would actually be "spreading the truth". Does this apply to RT?