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> Why won’t Apple add a disappearing messages feature? Most customers (especially non engineer) are apathetic to disappearing messages. Also its kind of 'fake

> Why won’t Apple add a disappearing messages feature? Most customers (especially non engineer) are apathetic to disappearing messages. Also its kind of 'fake' you can just take screenshots.

vaylian 2y ago
> Also its kind of 'fake' you can just take screenshots. That's not the point of disappearing messages. Maybe "expiring messages" would be a better name. The point is that you and your communication partners don't have to clean up your messages manually. If the messages are not stored indefinitely, then they are a lot less likely to be leaked in a data breach. Just like face-to-face conversations, the discussion can be ephemeral.
- lurking_swe 2y ago
  > partners don't have to clean up your messages manually good news, you can already do this (been possible for years). Open Settings, find the settings for `Messages`, and change the `Keep Messages` option to 30 days, 1 year, or forever. I suppose it would be nice if this setting was more granular, for example per thread...but I think the status quo suits most people just fine?
ziofill 2y ago
Since they control the OS the could also restrict that.
- aliher1911 2y ago
  You can make a picture of a screen with camera. I always do that with apps that restrict screenshots.
  - ziofill 2y ago
    Sure sure, but it's one extra step that may not always be available.
    - aliher1911 2y ago
      I might be this missing a point here. What is the reason to block screenshots? If we want to save space, blocking screenshots is irrelevant. If we want sender to have a guarantee that message is not preserved then we can't do that either because screen is visible. I can only see that as a marketing trick for unsophisticated user.
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lxgr 2y ago
Defaults matter, and the default of most people isn't taking screenshots. My friends could covertly create voice recordings of in-person meetings as well, but that's very different from everybody by default walking around with a voice recorder that I have to individually ask them to please turn off.

> Why won’t Apple add a disappearing messages feature? Most customers (especially non engineer) are apathetic to disappearing messages. Also its kind of 'fake' you can just take screenshots.

vaylian 2y ago

> Also its kind of 'fake' you can just take screenshots. That's not the point of disappearing messages. Maybe "expiring messages" would be a better name. The point is that you and your communication partners don't have to clean up your messages manually. If the messages are not stored indefinitely, then they are a lot less likely to be leaked in a data breach. Just like face-to-face conversations, the discussion can be ephemeral.

lurking_swe 2y ago
> partners don't have to clean up your messages manually good news, you can already do this (been possible for years). Open Settings, find the settings for `Messages`, and change the `Keep Messages` option to 30 days, 1 year, or forever. I suppose it would be nice if this setting was more granular, for example per thread...but I think the status quo suits most people just fine?

ziofill 2y ago

Since they control the OS the could also restrict that.

aliher1911 2y ago
You can make a picture of a screen with camera. I always do that with apps that restrict screenshots.
- ziofill 2y ago
  Sure sure, but it's one extra step that may not always be available.
  - aliher1911 2y ago
    I might be this missing a point here. What is the reason to block screenshots? If we want to save space, blocking screenshots is irrelevant. If we want sender to have a guarantee that message is not preserved then we can't do that either because screen is visible. I can only see that as a marketing trick for unsophisticated user.
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lxgr 2y ago

Defaults matter, and the default of most people isn't taking screenshots. My friends could covertly create voice recordings of in-person meetings as well, but that's very different from everybody by default walking around with a voice recorder that I have to individually ask them to please turn off.