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I don't really understand your concern. Why is it too late if you have received one of those messages? You don't have to open it. In fact you can delete the mes

by ryvi 2y ago

I don't really understand your concern. Why is it too late if you have received one of those messages? You don't have to open it. In fact you can delete the message unopened, while the other party can clearly see that you didn't open it.

ohgr 2y ago
The point is if you want to report someone for it for sexual harassment, which is exactly what it is, then the disappearing message is a problem. You don't just ignore it. You deal with it.
- __MatrixMan__ 2y ago
  You can just screenshot it if you need evidence of its existence for some reason. The point is to spare the other party the hassle of having to think about their opsec after-the-fact, not to trap them in a setting they don't want.
  - RandomBacon 2y ago
    And have a reminder of it everytime you open your pictures app? Or if you're scrolling through to show something to someone else, it's hard to mistake a penis for something else even when it's a thumbnail if that other person sees.
    - nocab 2y ago
      [dead]
    - InvertedRhodium 2y ago
      Yeah. I prefer my phallic reminders in the messaging application where they belong, seeing them in the picture album would just be horrifying.
- miloignis 2y ago
  There's no technical reason that disappearing messages should prevent reporting them though - not only could reports prevent deletion of the reported messages, you could have it such that the other end has to agree/set their own disappearing timeline if someone messages them with disappearing messages on. On the topic of unsolicited messages though, I prefer to tackle the problem at the source - it shouldn't be possible to message me at all if I haven't given you an invitation to do so, and invitations should be individually revocable. (This would be a big departure from the familiar phone number model, of course)
  - ohgr 2y ago
    It's a bit difficult when you use the technology to run groups of unsolicited people. There is inevitably an inclusion boundary there. Technical reasons don't trump social and human reasons. There's a compromise somewhere.
jychang 2y ago
... You can't see if a dick pic is a dick pic unless you open it?

by ryvi 2y ago

ohgr 2y ago

The point is if you want to report someone for it for sexual harassment, which is exactly what it is, then the disappearing message is a problem. You don't just ignore it. You deal with it.

__MatrixMan__ 2y ago
You can just screenshot it if you need evidence of its existence for some reason. The point is to spare the other party the hassle of having to think about their opsec after-the-fact, not to trap them in a setting they don't want.
- RandomBacon 2y ago
  And have a reminder of it everytime you open your pictures app? Or if you're scrolling through to show something to someone else, it's hard to mistake a penis for something else even when it's a thumbnail if that other person sees.
  - nocab 2y ago
    [dead]
  - InvertedRhodium 2y ago
    Yeah. I prefer my phallic reminders in the messaging application where they belong, seeing them in the picture album would just be horrifying.
miloignis 2y ago
There's no technical reason that disappearing messages should prevent reporting them though - not only could reports prevent deletion of the reported messages, you could have it such that the other end has to agree/set their own disappearing timeline if someone messages them with disappearing messages on. On the topic of unsolicited messages though, I prefer to tackle the problem at the source - it shouldn't be possible to message me at all if I haven't given you an invitation to do so, and invitations should be individually revocable. (This would be a big departure from the familiar phone number model, of course)
- ohgr 2y ago
  It's a bit difficult when you use the technology to run groups of unsolicited people. There is inevitably an inclusion boundary there. Technical reasons don't trump social and human reasons. There's a compromise somewhere.

jychang 2y ago

... You can't see if a dick pic is a dick pic unless you open it?