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Imagine still talking about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" while "The King" goes on rants about invading Greenland and posts AI videos of Saddam-esque gold statue

Imagine still talking about "Trump Derangement Syndrome" while "The King" goes on rants about invading Greenland and posts AI videos of Saddam-esque gold statues of himself in "Trump Gaza", all while he wrecks every international relationship we have, turns the economy into chaos, and puts Kash Patel and Dan Bongino on charge of the FBI, after which they openly started dropping investigations against politicians (Eric Adams) contingent on their cooperation with his agenda. That is a not even close to exhaustive list of only things that have happened in the past two weeks. And like fuck it's not like recent history is all that counts. January 6th 2021

galimalint 2y ago
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- anonzzzies 2y ago
  If you think it's ok for a leader of the biggest power in the world to joke and say random things that are lies while blackmailing ex-allies into 'negotiations' and helping russia win an invasion on sovereign territory that US and others promised to protect for not having nukes anymore in 1994, you must be special indeed.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - galimalint 2y ago
    You are pretty special indeed if you can't see that Russia and Ukraine are currently in a stalemate that could drag on for years.
    - anonzzzies 2y ago
      Sure, but that's not a reason to help the agressor instead of the victim.
    - munksbeer 2y ago
      That is true, but unrelated to the point. Why has Russia invaded Ukraine?
  - gitaarik 2y ago
    Come on, every president lies. What does it matter if they're a clown or not. At least with Trump it's obvious, and it's not so hypocritical.
    - AlecSchueler 2y ago
      It's not obvious, though, that's the problem. Everything he says he will do is a joke until it's not.
- teekert 2y ago
  I consider myself to be quite the socialist. Would probably vote democrat in a two party system like that of the US (where I live I can choose between about a dozen parties, the largest of which will then, together, govern). But I also listen to Joe Rogan from time to time, just out of curiosity. It helps me see “the other side” as the kind humans that they are.
  - relaxing 2y ago
    You listened to Rogan and your takeaway was “kind human”?
    - teekert 2y ago
      For sure, yours wasn't? He has some weird takes on aliens, but I can see how conservatives see him as a good example for their children on topics like social media use, taking care of your body and mind through sports and socials gatherings, based a lot on traditional christian values. I think it is very easy to take what he says out of context and thus find it important to listen to his whole podcast from time to time. I'm not a christian, in fact I went through a rioting-atheism phase when I was young. But I'm older now, I see the good sides of religion, along with the bad sides, which makes me understand what they desire. He remarked (in an interview with Adam Curry) that he'd give Harris a fair chance, was interested in her as a person, would, in an interview, try to show the world her best human side. I believe that he would have. Before they blocked it over here I read Russia Today every now and then (sure I can set proton-vpn to exit in Albania and still read it but I don't really bother anymore). Yes it's propaganda, but the fear of NATO is palpable and reading RT breeds understanding for the people that get fed this news on a daily basis, even though it goes against my own worldviews. Trying to explain the world-view of this other side usually gets me flagged here, as if I somehow say that that side is better. I don't feel it that way. There are some online communities that welcome this open type of discussion. It is my opinion that is is important to engage in such open discussions
      - relaxing 2y ago
        Out of curiosity, what are they afraid NATO will do? When Turkey has been there at their border for 75 years? I hear this but I never see anyone describe the threat behind it.
- kmos17 2y ago
  It’s an understatement to say Canada is extremely displeased at this, it will cost the US billions in lost trade and tourism. And for what? The trade deficit if you take out oil exports from Canada to the US is actually in favor of the US. Many American jobs will be lost because of this. That trust and relationship will not be rebuilt easily, you vastly underestimate the damage and cost that will come from all the ill will being generated. Words from a president are not just words, they carry weight, but now that tariffs are actually in effect we can see plain as day the first part of him carrying to execution his reckless and completely senseless ideas.
  - galimalint 2y ago
    Trump administration most likely has calculated and knows that shrinking $200 billion in trade deficit with Canada outweighs the downside of lost trade and tourism from Canada. You speak of favor to US and trust and relationship, but that's really inconsequential in the face of $200 billion in trade deficit.
    - kmos17 2y ago
      The U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada was $63.3 billion in 2024, a 1.4 percent decrease ($926.9 million) over 2023. source: https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada#:~:text=Canada%20Trade%20Summary&text=U.S.%20goods%20imports%20from%20Canada,(%24926.9%20million)%20over%202023. https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada#:~:text=C... And again what will be gained? What is the problem exactly you think our genius president will fix? Canadians are massively boycotting the US, in addition to being the US’s largest export market they are the number one source of tourism to the US. Canada is the top source of international visitors to the United States, with 20.4 million visits in 2024, generating $20.5 billion in spending and supporting 140,000 American jobs. A 10% reduction in Canadian travel could mean 2.0 million fewer visits, $2.1 billion in lost spending and 14,000 job losses. All this is just dumb and reckless, but not surprising coming from a business man who managed to bankrupt casinos
hayst4ck 2y ago
> Trump Derangement Syndrome This is much much more dangerous than you realize. When Russia invaded Ukraine, killing people's families and torturing those who resist in Bucha, "russophobia" was the word Putin used. When China does something evil and people rightfuly don't like it, china calls that "sinophobia." These are words that mean there will be no compromise. It's a word that directly represents a state of war. "It's a sickness, so there is no way to reason, the only thing we can do is use force." These "sicknesses" are a clever linguistic tool. They flip cause and effect. It frames criticism as irrational hatred so that the accusers can see themselves as victims. It dismisses problems with trump as blind hatred and directly ignores any harms caused by Trump. TDS is straight out of the Russian propaganda playbook.

galimalint 2y ago

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anonzzzies 2y ago
If you think it's ok for a leader of the biggest power in the world to joke and say random things that are lies while blackmailing ex-allies into 'negotiations' and helping russia win an invasion on sovereign territory that US and others promised to protect for not having nukes anymore in 1994, you must be special indeed.
- deleted 2y ago
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- galimalint 2y ago
  You are pretty special indeed if you can't see that Russia and Ukraine are currently in a stalemate that could drag on for years.
  - anonzzzies 2y ago
    Sure, but that's not a reason to help the agressor instead of the victim.
  - munksbeer 2y ago
    That is true, but unrelated to the point. Why has Russia invaded Ukraine?
- gitaarik 2y ago
  Come on, every president lies. What does it matter if they're a clown or not. At least with Trump it's obvious, and it's not so hypocritical.
  - AlecSchueler 2y ago
    It's not obvious, though, that's the problem. Everything he says he will do is a joke until it's not.
teekert 2y ago
I consider myself to be quite the socialist. Would probably vote democrat in a two party system like that of the US (where I live I can choose between about a dozen parties, the largest of which will then, together, govern). But I also listen to Joe Rogan from time to time, just out of curiosity. It helps me see “the other side” as the kind humans that they are.
- relaxing 2y ago
  You listened to Rogan and your takeaway was “kind human”?
  - teekert 2y ago
    For sure, yours wasn't? He has some weird takes on aliens, but I can see how conservatives see him as a good example for their children on topics like social media use, taking care of your body and mind through sports and socials gatherings, based a lot on traditional christian values. I think it is very easy to take what he says out of context and thus find it important to listen to his whole podcast from time to time. I'm not a christian, in fact I went through a rioting-atheism phase when I was young. But I'm older now, I see the good sides of religion, along with the bad sides, which makes me understand what they desire. He remarked (in an interview with Adam Curry) that he'd give Harris a fair chance, was interested in her as a person, would, in an interview, try to show the world her best human side. I believe that he would have. Before they blocked it over here I read Russia Today every now and then (sure I can set proton-vpn to exit in Albania and still read it but I don't really bother anymore). Yes it's propaganda, but the fear of NATO is palpable and reading RT breeds understanding for the people that get fed this news on a daily basis, even though it goes against my own worldviews. Trying to explain the world-view of this other side usually gets me flagged here, as if I somehow say that that side is better. I don't feel it that way. There are some online communities that welcome this open type of discussion. It is my opinion that is is important to engage in such open discussions
    - relaxing 2y ago
      Out of curiosity, what are they afraid NATO will do? When Turkey has been there at their border for 75 years? I hear this but I never see anyone describe the threat behind it.
kmos17 2y ago
It’s an understatement to say Canada is extremely displeased at this, it will cost the US billions in lost trade and tourism. And for what? The trade deficit if you take out oil exports from Canada to the US is actually in favor of the US. Many American jobs will be lost because of this. That trust and relationship will not be rebuilt easily, you vastly underestimate the damage and cost that will come from all the ill will being generated. Words from a president are not just words, they carry weight, but now that tariffs are actually in effect we can see plain as day the first part of him carrying to execution his reckless and completely senseless ideas.
- galimalint 2y ago
  Trump administration most likely has calculated and knows that shrinking $200 billion in trade deficit with Canada outweighs the downside of lost trade and tourism from Canada. You speak of favor to US and trust and relationship, but that's really inconsequential in the face of $200 billion in trade deficit.
  - kmos17 2y ago
    The U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada was $63.3 billion in 2024, a 1.4 percent decrease ($926.9 million) over 2023. source: https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada#:~:text=Canada%20Trade%20Summary&text=U.S.%20goods%20imports%20from%20Canada,(%24926.9%20million)%20over%202023. https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada#:~:text=C... And again what will be gained? What is the problem exactly you think our genius president will fix? Canadians are massively boycotting the US, in addition to being the US’s largest export market they are the number one source of tourism to the US. Canada is the top source of international visitors to the United States, with 20.4 million visits in 2024, generating $20.5 billion in spending and supporting 140,000 American jobs. A 10% reduction in Canadian travel could mean 2.0 million fewer visits, $2.1 billion in lost spending and 14,000 job losses. All this is just dumb and reckless, but not surprising coming from a business man who managed to bankrupt casinos

hayst4ck 2y ago

> Trump Derangement Syndrome This is much much more dangerous than you realize. When Russia invaded Ukraine, killing people's families and torturing those who resist in Bucha, "russophobia" was the word Putin used. When China does something evil and people rightfuly don't like it, china calls that "sinophobia." These are words that mean there will be no compromise. It's a word that directly represents a state of war. "It's a sickness, so there is no way to reason, the only thing we can do is use force." These "sicknesses" are a clever linguistic tool. They flip cause and effect. It frames criticism as irrational hatred so that the accusers can see themselves as victims. It dismisses problems with trump as blind hatred and directly ignores any harms caused by Trump. TDS is straight out of the Russian propaganda playbook.