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Has this improved at all in the last 2 years?

by panja 2y ago

OuterVale 2y ago
Yeah, it has. Not as quickly as one would like, but we're all working on it with the time we have available. A few assorted features have already rolled out, but the main focus has been on the new clients. A native Android app just got released in early access, there is a native iOS app on TestFlight in heavy development, and there is a new web front-end in beta. The ecosystem has also matured a lot, and much of our behind the scenes tooling and processes have improved. You can have a look at the blog on the website to see more.
Jyaif 2y ago
You could ask the same about Discord (and you'd get the answer "it's getting worse") Revolt is extremely well done, and yes this IPO means folks will flock to it when Discord dials up the revenue streams. It's an easy prediction because it's always how things goes...
- Garlef 2y ago
  Some UX-Changes made by Discord are baffling: It used to be possible to swipe through images attached to a post. Not possible anymore... Why on earth would you remove such a feature?
  - registeredcorn 2y ago
    Speaking of baffling features missing: The only thing I genuinely care about is some kind of a "raise hand" button in VoIP to indicate you have something to say while someone is talking. (emotes don't show user name if you are doing screenshare, and they disappear after a second anyway.) I've been switching between discord and Teams for work chats for years now, and it's literally the only thing I find superior in Teams. I can't imagine what Discords reasoning is, but it continues to surprise me to see raise hand missing in every single increasingly annoying update. Just give me a stupid little yellow hand! Have it show my username! Keep it on the screen until I turn it off! That's all I need! I don't care about the shop! I don't want nitro! I don't care about party games or holiday integration or anything else. Just give me the stupid yellow hand!
- hhh 2y ago
  What social media platform has people flocking to open source platforms when it goes public? The most successful one I can think of is Bluesky, and it’s still small enough that I wouldn’t call it flocking
  - kelnos 2y ago
    I guess it depends on your threshold for "flocking". Certainly there are still a ton of people (and bots) left on Twitter (for example), but people did leave and go to Bluesky and Mastodon. And if the place people go to is a smaller player with comparatively not that many users, that influx can present scaling problems for them, even if it's a drop in the bucket for the platform they came from.
  - Velorivox 2y ago
    Bluesky also has the dubious distinction of starting at Twitter, having been founded by the Twitter founder, splitting off when the mothership got acquired.
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    That also wasn’t prompted by Twitter going public, it was prompted by Twitter going _private_. And Twitter’s self-immolation is… unusual in its scale and ambition.
- jillesvangurp 2y ago
  Enshittification is a given. Once bankers take over, users become lusers that serve to stuff their pockets. This was always going to happen to discord. Slack, discord, teams, zoom, hipchat (if you remember that one) etc. all kind of overlap in functionality. They are all commercial tools with slightly different takes on the same space: team communication. Google's internally paranoid schizophrenic mix of ever flopping chat solutions also have some adjacent products. Meets doesn't do chat and chat doesn't do video. What do all of these have in common: they are running backwards and are ever fiddling with ways to ask money for their centralized services. Slack is now owned by salesforce. Zoom peaked during the pandemic but turned out to be a one trick pony. Teams is causing MS to retire Skype and is universally hated for its bloat, poor performance, and pervasiveness in dreadful enterprise heavy companies. And discord does essentially the same things but for gamers. I'm not familiar with revolt. But this stuff is obviously a commodity given the many contenders in this crowded market. So, free and open source should be good enough. There's a long history of chat solutions peaking and then sliding away into obscurity. ICQ, Yahoo messenger, MSN, AOL, etc. The bazillion Google chat/communication products that flopped hard. All gone. All predecessors to Slack and modern equivalents. I was chatting with colleagues in the late nineties using ICQ. These days I use Slack. And Whatsapp. And Meets. And Teams (because our customers are really into masochistic Microsoft products). And all the rest. Revolt is only partially open source unfortunately. IMHO this is a mistake. It's yet another walled garden. It's 2025; we still don't have a proper federated solution (like email) that doesn't lock you in to 1 company, 1 UI, 1 network, etc. The reason email is still around is that federation is important. Everything else comes, enshittifies, and then goes away. Email stays. Why do I need different apps to chat/video call to different people? I have about half a dozen on my phone currently. It's ridiculous.

Has this improved at all in the last 2 years?

by panja 2y ago

Has this improved at all in the last 2 years?

Yeah, it has. Not as quickly as one would like, but we're all working on it with the time we have available. A few assorted features have already rolled out, but the main focus has been on the new clients. A native Android app just got released in early access, there is a native iOS app on TestFlight in heavy development, and there is a new web front-end in beta. The ecosystem has also matured a lot, and much of our behind the scenes tooling and processes have improved. You can have a look at the blog on the website to see more.

Jyaif 2y ago

You could ask the same about Discord (and you'd get the answer "it's getting worse") Revolt is extremely well done, and yes this IPO means folks will flock to it when Discord dials up the revenue streams. It's an easy prediction because it's always how things goes...

Garlef 2y ago
Some UX-Changes made by Discord are baffling: It used to be possible to swipe through images attached to a post. Not possible anymore... Why on earth would you remove such a feature?
- registeredcorn 2y ago
  Speaking of baffling features missing: The only thing I genuinely care about is some kind of a "raise hand" button in VoIP to indicate you have something to say while someone is talking. (emotes don't show user name if you are doing screenshare, and they disappear after a second anyway.) I've been switching between discord and Teams for work chats for years now, and it's literally the only thing I find superior in Teams. I can't imagine what Discords reasoning is, but it continues to surprise me to see raise hand missing in every single increasingly annoying update. Just give me a stupid little yellow hand! Have it show my username! Keep it on the screen until I turn it off! That's all I need! I don't care about the shop! I don't want nitro! I don't care about party games or holiday integration or anything else. Just give me the stupid yellow hand!
hhh 2y ago
What social media platform has people flocking to open source platforms when it goes public? The most successful one I can think of is Bluesky, and it’s still small enough that I wouldn’t call it flocking
- kelnos 2y ago
  I guess it depends on your threshold for "flocking". Certainly there are still a ton of people (and bots) left on Twitter (for example), but people did leave and go to Bluesky and Mastodon. And if the place people go to is a smaller player with comparatively not that many users, that influx can present scaling problems for them, even if it's a drop in the bucket for the platform they came from.
- Velorivox 2y ago
  Bluesky also has the dubious distinction of starting at Twitter, having been founded by the Twitter founder, splitting off when the mothership got acquired.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  That also wasn’t prompted by Twitter going public, it was prompted by Twitter going _private_. And Twitter’s self-immolation is… unusual in its scale and ambition.
jillesvangurp 2y ago
Enshittification is a given. Once bankers take over, users become lusers that serve to stuff their pockets. This was always going to happen to discord. Slack, discord, teams, zoom, hipchat (if you remember that one) etc. all kind of overlap in functionality. They are all commercial tools with slightly different takes on the same space: team communication. Google's internally paranoid schizophrenic mix of ever flopping chat solutions also have some adjacent products. Meets doesn't do chat and chat doesn't do video. What do all of these have in common: they are running backwards and are ever fiddling with ways to ask money for their centralized services. Slack is now owned by salesforce. Zoom peaked during the pandemic but turned out to be a one trick pony. Teams is causing MS to retire Skype and is universally hated for its bloat, poor performance, and pervasiveness in dreadful enterprise heavy companies. And discord does essentially the same things but for gamers. I'm not familiar with revolt. But this stuff is obviously a commodity given the many contenders in this crowded market. So, free and open source should be good enough. There's a long history of chat solutions peaking and then sliding away into obscurity. ICQ, Yahoo messenger, MSN, AOL, etc. The bazillion Google chat/communication products that flopped hard. All gone. All predecessors to Slack and modern equivalents. I was chatting with colleagues in the late nineties using ICQ. These days I use Slack. And Whatsapp. And Meets. And Teams (because our customers are really into masochistic Microsoft products). And all the rest. Revolt is only partially open source unfortunately. IMHO this is a mistake. It's yet another walled garden. It's 2025; we still don't have a proper federated solution (like email) that doesn't lock you in to 1 company, 1 UI, 1 network, etc. The reason email is still around is that federation is important. Everything else comes, enshittifies, and then goes away. Email stays. Why do I need different apps to chat/video call to different people? I have about half a dozen on my phone currently. It's ridiculous.