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Reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote banned content

28 points by mraniki 2y ago

fsckboy 2y ago
finally, the reddit department of pre-crime!
- deleted 2y ago
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- xvector 2y ago
  Not sure if it's "pre-crime" when these users are upvoting comments calling for the assassination of our sitting president. That's likely just straight-up "crime," or at the very least warrants a domestic terrorism and/or radicalized individual investigation.
selfmodruntime 2y ago
Between this and the fact that anonymous power mods with no accountability can ban you from multiple default subreddits permanently for any arbitrary reason - that doesn‘t even have to fit that subreddit‘s public ruleset - I wonder if Reddit Inc. actually wants to serve their users? I‘m beginning to think they actually hate them. Reddit‘s moderation policies make no sense to me. The system is just rife with moderator abuse and trying to combat it nets you a permanent sitewide ban. Every single person I spoke with (in my tech bubble) has one or multiple stories of being banned from some subreddit for ridiculous reasons. How exactly is this supposed to be a net benefit for this company that wants to make money?
- mystified5016 2y ago
  The only entities allowed to read reddit in its entirety are the real customers: AI scrapers
- yungporko 2y ago
  >I wonder if Reddit Inc. actually wants to serve their users? I‘m beginning to think they actually hate them. with the way redditors act, reddit probably hates them at least as much as everybody else does.
  - dendrite9 2y ago
    In another online community I'm part of I've watched members become mods, start to hate dealing with the messy parts of the community, get burnt out, then usually disappear. Sometimes they come back other times they don't. Or they appear in a flurry like the perseids before leaving again for a while. Most of the former mods are still in touch behind the scenes to help provide context and a sounding board when dealing with some of the personalities. It isn't the healthiest community without an influx of newcomers but it is still going and some of the people have known each other online for ~30 years. I've generally appreciated mods in the places I hang out, but after getting a peak behind the curtain I understand why it can be a wearing role. And why rotating out of it can be a healthy plan.
- xvector 2y ago
  This is unfortunately what happens when you outsource moderation to NEETs with a radicalized worldview.
DoctorOW 2y ago
Getting a warning is a good thing. A lot of action is taken invisibly. My account is permanently banned for criticizing the US's anti-trans legislation. Sent messages to admins and everything, absolutely no solution but to say goodbye to the communities I was a part of just for disagreeing with the president.
thinkingemote 2y ago
It's good that platforms take action to make themselves less harmful. However, whilst it's "safer", Reddit stopped being a place of fun years ago. It might be incompatible to have ingroup-safe friendly places and encourage actual fun and humour. There's certainly a conflict. It used to be where memes were made and refined. Instagram and tiktok have that now. Worth stating the obvious but Reddit is not at all safe for work nor safe for children, it's not family friendly and is likely to harm ones mental health. Most normal non users view it as tumblr: "oh that's that porn site isn't it?". It does remain a sometimes useful resource for some tech discussions and hobbies. Sections which were never political nor humourous.
- diggan 2y ago
  > Worth stating the obvious but Reddit is not at all safe for work nor safe for children Compare to how it used to be, it's pretty SFW today. There isn't even any nudity on r/all anymore, that's how cleaned up it is now. Besides, the internet at large isn't safe for work, any link can basically serve you anything, regardless of the domain. Give a child unrestricted access to whatever they want on the internet and they will come across "not safe for children" stuff, within the hour.
buyucu 2y ago
Reddit is not the place it used to be 15 years ago. I moved on to greener pasture, mostly Lemmy. I really don't want thought police on my internet.
maeil 2y ago
It seems reasonablly likely this is inspired partially by the pivotal tone-setting role that Reddit - entirely organically - played in the outpour of support for Luigi Mangione. It's widely known that big tech CEOs are all in shared WhatsApp (or Signal) groups, and especially social media platforms are very attentive to the opinions of their powerful friends, both governmental and non-governmental. There's no doubt that a lot of them will have reached out to Reddit leadership after that event. Don't take this as justification, it's anything but that. Purely a look at their motivations and timing.

28 points by mraniki 2y ago

fsckboy 2y ago

finally, the reddit department of pre-crime!

deleted 2y ago
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xvector 2y ago
Not sure if it's "pre-crime" when these users are upvoting comments calling for the assassination of our sitting president. That's likely just straight-up "crime," or at the very least warrants a domestic terrorism and/or radicalized individual investigation.

selfmodruntime 2y ago

Between this and the fact that anonymous power mods with no accountability can ban you from multiple default subreddits permanently for any arbitrary reason - that doesn‘t even have to fit that subreddit‘s public ruleset - I wonder if Reddit Inc. actually wants to serve their users? I‘m beginning to think they actually hate them. Reddit‘s moderation policies make no sense to me. The system is just rife with moderator abuse and trying to combat it nets you a permanent sitewide ban. Every single person I spoke with (in my tech bubble) has one or multiple stories of being banned from some subreddit for ridiculous reasons. How exactly is this supposed to be a net benefit for this company that wants to make money?

mystified5016 2y ago
The only entities allowed to read reddit in its entirety are the real customers: AI scrapers
yungporko 2y ago
>I wonder if Reddit Inc. actually wants to serve their users? I‘m beginning to think they actually hate them. with the way redditors act, reddit probably hates them at least as much as everybody else does.
- dendrite9 2y ago
  In another online community I'm part of I've watched members become mods, start to hate dealing with the messy parts of the community, get burnt out, then usually disappear. Sometimes they come back other times they don't. Or they appear in a flurry like the perseids before leaving again for a while. Most of the former mods are still in touch behind the scenes to help provide context and a sounding board when dealing with some of the personalities. It isn't the healthiest community without an influx of newcomers but it is still going and some of the people have known each other online for ~30 years. I've generally appreciated mods in the places I hang out, but after getting a peak behind the curtain I understand why it can be a wearing role. And why rotating out of it can be a healthy plan.
xvector 2y ago
This is unfortunately what happens when you outsource moderation to NEETs with a radicalized worldview.

DoctorOW 2y ago

Getting a warning is a good thing. A lot of action is taken invisibly. My account is permanently banned for criticizing the US's anti-trans legislation. Sent messages to admins and everything, absolutely no solution but to say goodbye to the communities I was a part of just for disagreeing with the president.

thinkingemote 2y ago

It's good that platforms take action to make themselves less harmful. However, whilst it's "safer", Reddit stopped being a place of fun years ago. It might be incompatible to have ingroup-safe friendly places and encourage actual fun and humour. There's certainly a conflict. It used to be where memes were made and refined. Instagram and tiktok have that now. Worth stating the obvious but Reddit is not at all safe for work nor safe for children, it's not family friendly and is likely to harm ones mental health. Most normal non users view it as tumblr: "oh that's that porn site isn't it?". It does remain a sometimes useful resource for some tech discussions and hobbies. Sections which were never political nor humourous.

diggan 2y ago
> Worth stating the obvious but Reddit is not at all safe for work nor safe for children Compare to how it used to be, it's pretty SFW today. There isn't even any nudity on r/all anymore, that's how cleaned up it is now. Besides, the internet at large isn't safe for work, any link can basically serve you anything, regardless of the domain. Give a child unrestricted access to whatever they want on the internet and they will come across "not safe for children" stuff, within the hour.

buyucu 2y ago

Reddit is not the place it used to be 15 years ago. I moved on to greener pasture, mostly Lemmy. I really don't want thought police on my internet.

maeil 2y ago

It seems reasonablly likely this is inspired partially by the pivotal tone-setting role that Reddit - entirely organically - played in the outpour of support for Luigi Mangione. It's widely known that big tech CEOs are all in shared WhatsApp (or Signal) groups, and especially social media platforms are very attentive to the opinions of their powerful friends, both governmental and non-governmental. There's no doubt that a lot of them will have reached out to Reddit leadership after that event. Don't take this as justification, it's anything but that. Purely a look at their motivations and timing.