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Democrat-leaning foreign policy realists like George Kennan and John Mearsheimer and even liberal economists like Jeff Sachs warned about the likely outcome of

Democrat-leaning foreign policy realists like George Kennan and John Mearsheimer and even liberal economists like Jeff Sachs warned about the likely outcome of these policies 30+ years ago. These ideas were free for anyone of any party to pick up, but it was easier to ignore the cracks in the liberal internationalist fantasies. So, expect to continue to make incorrect predictions and to face further electoral defeats. The very impulse to try hide this comment in anger instead of reply rationally is part of why Trump won, and will continue to win no matter how foolish he acts.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
Mearsheimer is an idiot. From his talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM his 'realism' is based on... "...Putin rarely lies to foreign audiences” Which is just plain not true. https://euideas.eui.eu/2022/07/11/john-mearsheimers-lecture-on-ukraine-why-he-is-wrong-and-what-are-the-consequences/ https://euideas.eui.eu/2022/07/11/john-mearsheimers-lecture-...
- fasbiner 2y ago
  His point was that Putin generally lies instrumentally to foreigners and pathologically domestically, whereas the west lies pathologically in both areas: https://web.archive.org/web/20230320140205/https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31020283 https://web.archive.org/web/20230320140205/https://www.bbc.c... Here you can see a link from the BBC where Putin admits that of course he was lying about the little green men. Because the lie no longer serves a purpose, it is thrown out. He is a gruesome thug, but he lives on planet earth. Whereas respectable western foreign policy figures and politicians are still to this day lying about the 75+ coups against democratic governments orchestrated by just the US in the last 120 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/28/trump-russia-ukraine-bernie-sanders https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/28/trump-... Or are wikipedia and the BBC well known kremlin propaganda outlets?
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    Yeah no. Mearsheimer is an idiot. He bases his premise on his belief that Putin doesn't lie. Even you and Putin admin Putin himself admit Putin is a liar. Not sure what that has to do with your follow on. I don't base if Putin lies on if America lies, I base it on if Putin lies.
    - fasbiner 2y ago
      I think a neutral observer would find you so unpersuasive and so illogical that they would naturally take the opposite of whatever views you hold, just for fear of being associated with such tautological and childish rhetoric.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago

Mearsheimer is an idiot. From his talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qciVozNtCDM his 'realism' is based on... "...Putin rarely lies to foreign audiences” Which is just plain not true. https://euideas.eui.eu/2022/07/11/john-mearsheimers-lecture-on-ukraine-why-he-is-wrong-and-what-are-the-consequences/ https://euideas.eui.eu/2022/07/11/john-mearsheimers-lecture-...

fasbiner 2y ago
His point was that Putin generally lies instrumentally to foreigners and pathologically domestically, whereas the west lies pathologically in both areas: https://web.archive.org/web/20230320140205/https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31020283 https://web.archive.org/web/20230320140205/https://www.bbc.c... Here you can see a link from the BBC where Putin admits that of course he was lying about the little green men. Because the lie no longer serves a purpose, it is thrown out. He is a gruesome thug, but he lives on planet earth. Whereas respectable western foreign policy figures and politicians are still to this day lying about the 75+ coups against democratic governments orchestrated by just the US in the last 120 years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/28/trump-russia-ukraine-bernie-sanders https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/28/trump-... Or are wikipedia and the BBC well known kremlin propaganda outlets?
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  Yeah no. Mearsheimer is an idiot. He bases his premise on his belief that Putin doesn't lie. Even you and Putin admin Putin himself admit Putin is a liar. Not sure what that has to do with your follow on. I don't base if Putin lies on if America lies, I base it on if Putin lies.
  - fasbiner 2y ago
    I think a neutral observer would find you so unpersuasive and so illogical that they would naturally take the opposite of whatever views you hold, just for fear of being associated with such tautological and childish rhetoric.