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So called "free speech absolutists" the minute they get into power... An an European often arguing with Americans on whichever definition of free speech is bes
by thrance 2y ago
So called "free speech absolutists" the minute they get into power...
An an European often arguing with Americans on whichever definition of free speech is best, that's what always bugged me. It doesn't matter what your law says when people who don't respect the law gain power. They won't protect their opponents free speech.
Punishing hate speech does not lead to political censorship, authoritarianism does.
- idle_zealot 2y ago> Punishing hate speech does not lead to political censorship Well, sure it does, if a political party runs on hate!
- zamadatix 2y agoDonald Trump has never been a free speech absolutist. He does like to stir people up about "free speech" though, particularly when it's something he wants to say, but that doesn't turn him into an absolutist. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/trump-pledges-curb-press-freedom-libel-laws-first-amendment https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/trump-pledge...
- ceejayoz 2y agoMusk was the one to claim to be an absolutist.
- zamadatix 2y agoWhile there are plenty of opportunities to bring Elon into conversations about Trump, and I have no doubt he's flip flopped on that like everything else he talks about, this act isn't really something he's been involved in. The act was introduced in the Senate prior to Musk teaming up with Trump's campaign 9 months ago, Trump just happened to push the House to also pass it in his address to Congress last night.
- thrance 2y agoHis supporters and allies certainly like to claim they are, and that he is their champion.
- blooalien 2y agoI think perhaps you meant "free speech absolutists", as "absolution" is the act of forgiving someone for their sins or wrongdoing.
- thrance 2y agoDang it, you're right. Thanks!