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I guess you could read the word anarchy that way but the phrase "as in anarchy" has caught on to describe the notion of a thing being unrestricted on an individ
by Spivak 2y ago
I guess you could read the word anarchy that way but the phrase "as in anarchy" has caught on to describe the notion of a thing being unrestricted on an individual level so that's what I went with. It's the common usage of the word and bares no intended relation to The Anarchist movement.
I'm curious as to your thoughts on the matter if you don't believe this is a fair assessment of each side's ideals. I do agree that how it plays out in practice is always going to be much messier once those ideals are filtered through humans who are by nature imperfect.
- CobrastanJorji 2y agoYou two agree on what the right claims its position is. However, the Republicans are passing a bill called "Take It Down" that the Republican President told a joint session of congress he intends to use specifically to remove speech against him. This is clearly not demonstrative of a "free as in anarchy" position on speech. Same thing happened with Elon Musk. When taking over Twitter, he described himself as a "free speech absolutist," which is the same as "free as in anarchy," but in practice he bans speech against his interest liberally, for example automatically removing any post that uses the word "cisgender," but also deleting tweets from reporters that he dislikes.
- stouset 2y agoAlso restricting videos that parody him. The right believes in “free speech for me but not for thee”. Which isn’t compatible with any good faith attempt at a definition.
- userbinator 2y agoSo does the left.
- CobrastanJorji 2y agoNo, sir. Democrats have done lots of stuff that's not great for free speech. For example, when in charge of the government, they've worked together with obliging social media companies to remove what they considered foreign misinformation. But stuff like that is absolutely nothing compared to what's happening now, and it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise. I can't think of a single thing Democrats have done in the last hundred years that is even in the same league as the President's promise to use the "Take It Down" Act to silence criticism, and I'll bet you can't either.
- userbinator 2y agoI can't think of a single thing Democrats have done in the last hundred years that is even in the same league as the President's promise to use the "Take It Down" Act to silence criticism, and I'll bet you can't either. It started almost 5 years ago now, but "misinformation" was widely used as a justification to silence discussion about the pandemic and the vaccines.
- stouset 2y agoYou misspelled “willful and blatant misinformation”. It is terrifying that you can’t see the material difference between uninformed fearmongering over vaccines and posting something unflattering about Donald Trump. Even then, please point me to the legislation that forbid these types of discussion. I’ll wait.