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Apple gave in to China years ago. Apple gave operation of iCloud servers to a chinese company.

• matthewdgreen 2y ago
  According to Apple, everything in their system still works the same and they still have control of their own hardware, even if it’s in a Chinese data center. Systems like iMessage are still fully end-to-end encrypted even in China. Maybe they’re lying but it would be a huge opportunity for devastating leaks if that’s true.
  • throwaway2037 2y ago
    > Systems like iMessage are still fully end-to-end encrypted even in China. I do wonder about this. How can an authoritarian state allow a (very!) large foreign corporation to operate an important communications network without data transparency to their domestic spy agency? I am not normally a tin-foil-hatter, but I just assume that the domestic spy agency has a copy of the private encryption keys used for HTTPS/TLS. Then, Apple can continue to advertise "end-to-end encrypted" (in Mainland China), but the local spies can read the comms.
    • momo_hn2025 2y ago
      The simplest answer to your question is "it exists" and "iMessage isn't important," but instead, you chose to write a whole fiction for your brain. If that's critical thinking, I'd call it hallucination.