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Libertarian taking government money and liberal are two different things. I doubt there's any liberals in Sam Altman circles. It's hard to even call people like

by torlok 2y ago

Libertarian taking government money and liberal are two different things. I doubt there's any liberals in Sam Altman circles. It's hard to even call people like Sam Altman libertarians when they have no regard for other people's intellectual property.

dragonwriter 2y ago
> Libertarian taking government money and liberal are two different things. There are many different uses of “liberal” in discussing politics, and some of them (including those used by what there is of an American Left) completely include what in the US are often referred to as “libertarians”. “Liberal” is quite possibly the most heavily overloaded political descriptor in existence.
- RealityVoid 2y ago
  It is so be cause of a sustained campaign to turn it into a slur.
  - dragonwriter 2y ago
    No, that's not really the main reason. The main reason is that almost every modern Western political ideology is either a development from 18th Century liberalism [the more common case] or a reactionary response against it or some subset of its descendants [excluding the overlap, the less common case], and some are both descendants of 18th Century liberalism and reactions against other descendants.) As a result, most ideologies in the West have some claim to the name “liberalism” and an even larger majority have deep seated opposition to one or more things with an association with that name.
RealityVoid 2y ago
I posit you can successfully be libertarian while disregarding the institution of intellectual property. I, for one, think it's a deeply flawed way we look at it in our society today and this does not need to be so. There are many many ways we could have perceived and handled intellectual property. I see knowledge a common good that once it's out there, it's out there.

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Libertarian taking government money and liberal are two different things. I doubt there's any liberals in Sam Altman circles. It's hard to even call people like

by torlok 2y ago

dragonwriter 2y ago
> Libertarian taking government money and liberal are two different things. There are many different uses of “liberal” in discussing politics, and some of them (including those used by what there is of an American Left) completely include what in the US are often referred to as “libertarians”. “Liberal” is quite possibly the most heavily overloaded political descriptor in existence.
- RealityVoid 2y ago
  It is so be cause of a sustained campaign to turn it into a slur.
  - dragonwriter 2y ago
    No, that's not really the main reason. The main reason is that almost every modern Western political ideology is either a development from 18th Century liberalism [the more common case] or a reactionary response against it or some subset of its descendants [excluding the overlap, the less common case], and some are both descendants of 18th Century liberalism and reactions against other descendants.) As a result, most ideologies in the West have some claim to the name “liberalism” and an even larger majority have deep seated opposition to one or more things with an association with that name.
RealityVoid 2y ago
I posit you can successfully be libertarian while disregarding the institution of intellectual property. I, for one, think it's a deeply flawed way we look at it in our society today and this does not need to be so. There are many many ways we could have perceived and handled intellectual property. I see knowledge a common good that once it's out there, it's out there.