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This assumes that no other manufacturer will put ads in their cars. Hopefully that's the case! I think the concern is that once/if a critical mass of manufactu

This assumes that no other manufacturer will put ads in their cars. Hopefully that's the case! I think the concern is that once/if a critical mass of manufacturers include in-car ads, the rest can follow (because people still need vehicles in most areas), and the consumer has no more choice.

gruez 2y ago
Is there any reason to believe they won't have a higher ad-free tier instead? If they get $500 LTV from showing ads, why wouldn't they offer a $1000 ad-free subscription? Seems to work fine with streaming platforms, for instance.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  >Is there any reason to believe they won't have a higher ad-free tier instead? I mean, this is still awful, right? Subscriptions for the car I spent tens of thousands of dollars on? >Seems to work fine with streaming platforms, for instance. It's awful here, too, in my opinion. But tolerable because I didn't spend multiple years paying to own the product.
  - gruez 2y ago
    >I mean, this is still awful, right? Subscriptions for the car I spent tens of thousands of dollars on? Alternatively framed: $1000/year discount for opting into ads.
    - ziddoap 2y ago
      The difference being that my previous car lasted near 15 years, and it was paid off in 7. Why would you want to pay a yearly fee after you're supposed to own the car, free and clear? I'll save us the back and forth: there is no model you can present (or reframing of a model) that will make me think advertisements (or an everlasting subscription to remove advertisements) in the car that I own is okay. It's profoundly depressing that I have to write it out that explicitly.