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That has little to do with advertising though. When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. When you take public transit, the buses and the trains
by kccqzy 2y ago
That has little to do with advertising though. When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. When you take public transit, the buses and the trains can have ads inside and outside.
- ale42 2y agoYes but you don't own the bus/train nor the road with the billboards. But supposedly, you do own the car. Do cars get cheaper by adding ads inside? Nope.
- gruez 2y ago>Yes but you don't own the bus/train nor the road with the billboards. But supposedly, you do own the car As opposed to a TV that you own? You even paid for the cable subscription.
- exe34 2y agoI took the bus from the airport into Istanbul, and it had a horribly bright screen in front of every seat, with flashing adverts and constantly moving - after a flight, I was already feeling nauseous. I managed to cover it with a jacket and ignore the ones further away, but it was a very unpleasant experience.
- Marsymars 2y agoI’d consider a socially positive action to render those screens inoperable.
- striking 2y agoYeah, but at least buses and trains are accountable to the voter in one way or another... and I can still wear headphones.
- gruez 2y agoYou can vote with your wallet and buy a car that doesn't have ads. The best you can do with ads on buses and trains is show up in your next city council meeting and raise a stink, only to be told that the transit agency signed a 10 year contract and can't pull out.
- ziddoap 2y agoThis assumes that no other manufacturer will put ads in their cars. Hopefully that's the case! I think the concern is that once/if a critical mass of manufacturers include in-car ads, the rest can follow (because people still need vehicles in most areas), and the consumer has no more choice.
- gruez 2y agoIs there any reason to believe they won't have a higher ad-free tier instead? If they get $500 LTV from showing ads, why wouldn't they offer a $1000 ad-free subscription? Seems to work fine with streaming platforms, for instance.
- ziddoap 2y ago>Is there any reason to believe they won't have a higher ad-free tier instead? I mean, this is still awful, right? Subscriptions for the car I spent tens of thousands of dollars on? >Seems to work fine with streaming platforms, for instance. It's awful here, too, in my opinion. But tolerable because I didn't spend multiple years paying to own the product.
- gruez 2y ago>I mean, this is still awful, right? Subscriptions for the car I spent tens of thousands of dollars on? Alternatively framed: $1000/year discount for opting into ads.
- ziddoap 2y agoThis sort of misses the point, and treats all advertisement as equally annoying. Advertisements inside my car, especially if the begin to use my speakers, is infinitely more annoying than a billboard (which, yes, is also annoying). Advertisements on trains/etc. are more annoying than billboards, but less annoying than advertisements in something I am supposed to own.
- ben_w 2y ago> When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. Far more so in the US[0] than in any of the parts of Europe I've lived in or visited[1]. [0] Around much of CA, RI, MA, passing through NV and CT, and the cities of NYC, Salt Lake City and Newark in NY, UT and NJ. [1] Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, Germany, Italy, Austria, Poland, Hungry, Finland, Greece, Cyprus.
- cafard 2y agoSome states sharply restrict roadside advertising--Maryland does, Pennsylvania doesn't. The bus advertising business seemed to have taken a beating a few years back. It is true that in Washington the bus shelters have ads, often electronic.
- spudlyo 2y agoWhenever AR glasses with ad-blockers are available, I will be an early adopter.
- codebje 2y agoBold assumption that AR glasses won’t just be a way to deliver more targeted advertising.
- nickthegreek 2y agoIn the free market of the future, I’m sure we will have both. It’s just the poor that will need to have their visions modified in their manicured adscapes of despair fashion specs. Also, the poor will be a larger share of the population.
- INGSOCIALITE 2y agothere's probably a huge market for novelty AI glasses that just show messaging from "they live" superimposed over all billboards
- Marsymars 2y ago> When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. When you take public transit, the buses and the trains can have ads inside and outside. I regularly complain about both of those things to all of the relevant political and transit authorities.