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This kind of speculative doomsday fiction is getting a bit played out. We get it, AI is going to destroy us all using social media! Maybe work in Blockchain i

by RajT88 2y ago

This kind of speculative doomsday fiction is getting a bit played out. We get it, AI is going to destroy us all using social media! Maybe work in Blockchain in there somehow.

kouru225 2y ago
It’s been played out since Terminator came out IMO The fear of AI/the fear of aliens IMO is propaganda to cover up the fact that technological advancement is highly correlated with sociological advancement. If people took this fact seriously, they might start wondering whether or not technological advancement actually causes sociological advancement, and if they started to question that then they’d come across all the evidence showing that what we normally think of as “civilized” and “intelligent” behavior is actually just the result of generational wealth, status, and power.
- jhbadger 2y ago
  Although people seem to always forget the 1970 movie "Colossus: The Forbin Project" which already had done the "rogue AI in control of weapons decides to go against humanity" thing already.
  - dijksterhuis 2y ago
    Also WarGames from 1983, though that was less 'sentient' AI making a decision to kill everyone and more hacker kid accidentally almost kills everyone.
  - RajT88 2y ago
    That movie is great. I watched it recently.
- kibwen 2y ago
  > the fact that technological advancement is highly correlated with sociological advancement For values of "sociological advancement" that correlate with technological advancement, naturally.
- bbor 2y ago
  I love me some capitalism critique, but I think it’s important to understand many scientists are legitimately terrified of an intelligence explosion and the resulting singularity. You can disagree with their arguments of course, but it’s best if we start by agreeing that they do have arguments. For example: Yudkowsky 2013, Intelligence Explosion Microeconomics (long, but with a short intro): https://intelligence.org/files/IEM.pdf https://intelligence.org/files/IEM.pdf Vinge 1993, The Coming Technological Singularity (shorter, bit less rigorous): https://users.manchester.edu/Facstaff/SSNaragon/Online/100-FYS-F15/Readings/Vinge,%20The%20Coming%20Technological%20Singularity.pdf https://users.manchester.edu/Facstaff/SSNaragon/Online/100-F...
kibwen 2y ago
That is what Skynet would say, yes.
bbor 2y ago
This one is actually super critical of AI funnily enough, and is just a barely-hidden libertarian screed. FWIW, if I were a robot with a Time Machine, I wouldn’t need to invent social media in the past — I wouldn’t simply use bioweapons during an ice age or two. Or hell, go back and shoot the dinosaur-killing asteroid out of the sky!

by RajT88 2y ago

This kind of speculative doomsday fiction is getting a bit played out. We get it, AI is going to destroy us all using social media! Maybe work in Blockchain in there somehow.

kouru225 2y ago

It’s been played out since Terminator came out IMO The fear of AI/the fear of aliens IMO is propaganda to cover up the fact that technological advancement is highly correlated with sociological advancement. If people took this fact seriously, they might start wondering whether or not technological advancement actually causes sociological advancement, and if they started to question that then they’d come across all the evidence showing that what we normally think of as “civilized” and “intelligent” behavior is actually just the result of generational wealth, status, and power.

jhbadger 2y ago
Although people seem to always forget the 1970 movie "Colossus: The Forbin Project" which already had done the "rogue AI in control of weapons decides to go against humanity" thing already.
- dijksterhuis 2y ago
  Also WarGames from 1983, though that was less 'sentient' AI making a decision to kill everyone and more hacker kid accidentally almost kills everyone.
- RajT88 2y ago
  That movie is great. I watched it recently.
kibwen 2y ago
> the fact that technological advancement is highly correlated with sociological advancement For values of "sociological advancement" that correlate with technological advancement, naturally.
bbor 2y ago
I love me some capitalism critique, but I think it’s important to understand many scientists are legitimately terrified of an intelligence explosion and the resulting singularity. You can disagree with their arguments of course, but it’s best if we start by agreeing that they do have arguments. For example: Yudkowsky 2013, Intelligence Explosion Microeconomics (long, but with a short intro): https://intelligence.org/files/IEM.pdf https://intelligence.org/files/IEM.pdf Vinge 1993, The Coming Technological Singularity (shorter, bit less rigorous): https://users.manchester.edu/Facstaff/SSNaragon/Online/100-FYS-F15/Readings/Vinge,%20The%20Coming%20Technological%20Singularity.pdf https://users.manchester.edu/Facstaff/SSNaragon/Online/100-F...

kibwen 2y ago

That is what Skynet would say, yes.

bbor 2y ago

This one is actually super critical of AI funnily enough, and is just a barely-hidden libertarian screed. FWIW, if I were a robot with a Time Machine, I wouldn’t need to invent social media in the past — I wouldn’t simply use bioweapons during an ice age or two. Or hell, go back and shoot the dinosaur-killing asteroid out of the sky!