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Not that I agree with this but couldn’t the easier way to do this be to just serve alcohol everywhere?

by Ancalagon 2y ago

lotsoweiners 2y ago
Sounds good to me whether my kids are there or not.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
I was thinking clothing optional. But yours is a better idea.
jhbadger 2y ago
I don't think that would work. Sure some places ban minors from places just serving alcohol, but restaurants that serve alcohol alongside food are generally open to everyone (even if they don't serve alcohol to minors).
alexjplant 2y ago
It is a common misconception that children are universally disallowed in places that serve alcohol. If this were true then kids wouldn't be allowed in Applebees or at baseball games. "Minors aren't allowed in bars" is often a lie told by security or bartenders so that they don't have to worry about carding people that are already inside the establishment; this falsity has since worked its way into the zeitgeist as law. To be fair there _are_ places that have statutes that prohibit minors in bars that don't sell food specifically but it's typically on a jurisdiction (county or state) basis per their respective ABC boards. Every single time I was denied entry to a bar (typically music venues) under the age of 21 it was strictly based on feels - none of those places had such regulations. See also security denying "up and down" (vertical) licenses despite the birthday complying or denying passports or requiring ID for all people under a certain age... it's mostly about streamlining operations. The law generally prohibits serving those under 21 and makes no stipulations regarding how they identify themselves. In this case, however, CA has a state-wide ABC that apparently _does_ make it illegal for minors to "enter and remain" in "bars and night clubs". The hotel would likely have a restaurant license though so the point is moot. [1] https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/license-types/ https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/license-types/
astura 2y ago
Have you been to a bar lately? They are all teeming with toddlers and young children nowadays.

Not that I agree with this but couldn’t the easier way to do this be to just serve alcohol everywhere?

lotsoweiners 2y ago

Sounds good to me whether my kids are there or not.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

I was thinking clothing optional. But yours is a better idea.

jhbadger 2y ago

I don't think that would work. Sure some places ban minors from places just serving alcohol, but restaurants that serve alcohol alongside food are generally open to everyone (even if they don't serve alcohol to minors).

alexjplant 2y ago

It is a common misconception that children are universally disallowed in places that serve alcohol. If this were true then kids wouldn't be allowed in Applebees or at baseball games. "Minors aren't allowed in bars" is often a lie told by security or bartenders so that they don't have to worry about carding people that are already inside the establishment; this falsity has since worked its way into the zeitgeist as law. To be fair there _are_ places that have statutes that prohibit minors in bars that don't sell food specifically but it's typically on a jurisdiction (county or state) basis per their respective ABC boards. Every single time I was denied entry to a bar (typically music venues) under the age of 21 it was strictly based on feels - none of those places had such regulations. See also security denying "up and down" (vertical) licenses despite the birthday complying or denying passports or requiring ID for all people under a certain age... it's mostly about streamlining operations. The law generally prohibits serving those under 21 and makes no stipulations regarding how they identify themselves. In this case, however, CA has a state-wide ABC that apparently _does_ make it illegal for minors to "enter and remain" in "bars and night clubs". The hotel would likely have a restaurant license though so the point is moot. [1] https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/license-types/ https://www.abc.ca.gov/licensing/license-types/

astura 2y ago

Have you been to a bar lately? They are all teeming with toddlers and young children nowadays.