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> France and Britain are Europe's only two nuclear powers. What about the European power with the worlds largest nuclear arsenal?

tromp 2y ago
As https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia says: > Russia is the most populous country in Europe but it's only partly in Europe: > is a country spanning Eastern Europe and North Asia.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> What about the European power with the world’s largest nuclear arsenal? If we’re being pedantic to the point of silliness, we could argue that a significant fraction of Russia’s nuclear assets are outside European Russia [1][2]. And that Muscovite Russia retains significant elements of its Mongol roots relative to the Kievan Rus [3]. [1] https://npolicy.org/interactive-nuclear-atlas/russias-nuclear-weapons-complex/ https://npolicy.org/interactive-nuclear-atlas/russias-nuclea... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia [3] https://geohistory.today/mongol-empire-effects-russia/ https://geohistory.today/mongol-empire-effects-russia/
- rKarpinski 2y ago
  It's not pedantic, Russia is part of Europe and according to your link has 80% of its population in Europe [1]. The exclusion from the list of European Nuclear powers is incorrect and politically motivated. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > Russia is part of Europe…politically motivated The Europe-Asia boundary is a political boundary [1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tectonic_plates https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tectonic_plates
    - rKarpinski 2y ago
      Sure, maybe "political" + "boundary" was redundant. But clearly missed the announcement that declared Eurasia to always having been Asia.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > Eurasia to always having been Asia Nothing in the text you’re referring to implies that. It just suggests Russian isn’t fully European. Which has never been in doubt. Within a security context where Russia is the aggressor, it makes sense to exclude them.
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tromp 2y ago

As https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia says: > Russia is the most populous country in Europe but it's only partly in Europe: > is a country spanning Eastern Europe and North Asia.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> What about the European power with the world’s largest nuclear arsenal? If we’re being pedantic to the point of silliness, we could argue that a significant fraction of Russia’s nuclear assets are outside European Russia [1][2]. And that Muscovite Russia retains significant elements of its Mongol roots relative to the Kievan Rus [3]. [1] https://npolicy.org/interactive-nuclear-atlas/russias-nuclear-weapons-complex/ https://npolicy.org/interactive-nuclear-atlas/russias-nuclea... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia [3] https://geohistory.today/mongol-empire-effects-russia/ https://geohistory.today/mongol-empire-effects-russia/

rKarpinski 2y ago
It's not pedantic, Russia is part of Europe and according to your link has 80% of its population in Europe [1]. The exclusion from the list of European Nuclear powers is incorrect and politically motivated. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Russia is part of Europe…politically motivated The Europe-Asia boundary is a political boundary [1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tectonic_plates https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tectonic_plates
  - rKarpinski 2y ago
    Sure, maybe "political" + "boundary" was redundant. But clearly missed the announcement that declared Eurasia to always having been Asia.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > Eurasia to always having been Asia Nothing in the text you’re referring to implies that. It just suggests Russian isn’t fully European. Which has never been in doubt. Within a security context where Russia is the aggressor, it makes sense to exclude them.

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