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No. There is already a solution to that problem, is called police. We don't need additional police.

by aortega 14y ago

rdl 14y ago
At conferences and other private events, it basically goes like this: Someone behaves inappropriately. Event organizers and/or their security designees and/or venue security request that the offender leave for whatever reason. Depending on venue, level of intoxication, threat, etc., the person may be escorted off the premises (how much force can be used depends on legal situation, too). If someone is unwilling to leave, police may be called and offender charged with trespassing. Attempting to re-enter would be trespassing, and police may be called. Attempting to assault security or event staff leads to police and ambulance being called. It's pretty normal for conference venues to have their own security (for fire safety as well as physical security), and for conference organizers to have security (mainly for crowd control and access control, but also for responding to things like fires caused by cellphones...). Having a conference-affiliated security person request that you leave an event is less damaging to you than having casino security formally ban you from the premises forever, and either is better than having police come and criminal trespassing charges filed.
- pyre 14y ago
  Some of the examples we're presented with are of physical harassment (i.e. groping). I think the implication is that the police should handle these incidences rather than trying to police them outside of the law.
  - rdl 14y ago
    Unless you think event or building security won't help you, it's still probably better to go to them, even if a "real crime" has happened -- they're able to get police there faster than you can, to the right location, and may be able to assist themselves (a lot of building security are off-duty police, too, and at the very least they're good witnesses). Particularly if it's something which just happened or is ongoing. I might call the police directly if it's something I want kept private (like, rape) which had happened already, but realistically anything which happens at a conference to an attendee will become known to the conference and venue security soon enough. Or I'd call the police if I didn't trust local security to do anything, like is sometimes the case with campus police. However, at conferences, I think most security staff would be responsive.

No. There is already a solution to that problem, is called police. We don't need additional police.

by aortega 14y ago

No. There is already a solution to that problem, is called police. We don't need additional police.

rdl 14y ago

At conferences and other private events, it basically goes like this: Someone behaves inappropriately. Event organizers and/or their security designees and/or venue security request that the offender leave for whatever reason. Depending on venue, level of intoxication, threat, etc., the person may be escorted off the premises (how much force can be used depends on legal situation, too). If someone is unwilling to leave, police may be called and offender charged with trespassing. Attempting to re-enter would be trespassing, and police may be called. Attempting to assault security or event staff leads to police and ambulance being called. It's pretty normal for conference venues to have their own security (for fire safety as well as physical security), and for conference organizers to have security (mainly for crowd control and access control, but also for responding to things like fires caused by cellphones...). Having a conference-affiliated security person request that you leave an event is less damaging to you than having casino security formally ban you from the premises forever, and either is better than having police come and criminal trespassing charges filed.

pyre 14y ago
Some of the examples we're presented with are of physical harassment (i.e. groping). I think the implication is that the police should handle these incidences rather than trying to police them outside of the law.
- rdl 14y ago
  Unless you think event or building security won't help you, it's still probably better to go to them, even if a "real crime" has happened -- they're able to get police there faster than you can, to the right location, and may be able to assist themselves (a lot of building security are off-duty police, too, and at the very least they're good witnesses). Particularly if it's something which just happened or is ongoing. I might call the police directly if it's something I want kept private (like, rape) which had happened already, but realistically anything which happens at a conference to an attendee will become known to the conference and venue security soon enough. Or I'd call the police if I didn't trust local security to do anything, like is sometimes the case with campus police. However, at conferences, I think most security staff would be responsive.