3 ms·

> Why should I agree or disagree with that? Who says that? Is it just some arbitrary theory that you came up with on the spot? Intelligence has some capabiliti

> Why should I agree or disagree with that? Who says that? Is it just some arbitrary theory that you came up with on the spot? Intelligence has some capabilities. I'm asking you if the capabilities of intelligence encompass the ability described, yes or no? > "Maximally compressed the observations" does not follow from the model being smaller. No other function can be smaller than the actual function that generates the observations. Correct answers indicates that "intelligence" reproduced the model in order to make a successful prediction, ergo "maximal compression".

YeGoblynQueenne 2y ago
>> No other function can be smaller than the actual function that generates the observations. You mean if I write a shitty program that takes the string "hello", copies it 10 million times and stores the copies, and then generates a single copy any time I run it, there's no algorithm that can achieve a better compression than that because "no other function can be smaller than the actual function that generates the observations"? I suggest, before coming up with fancy theories about compression and intelligence, that you read a bit about computer science, first. For instance, read up on information theory, and maybe about Kolmogorov complexity, the abstractions that people who swear that "compression <something something> intelligence" are basing their ideas on.
- naasking 2y ago
  I'm very familiar with Solomonoff Induction, thanks. Are you going to answer my question or make more bad faith tangents to avoid committing to an answer?
  - YeGoblynQueenne 2y ago
    An answer to what? To some half-baked theory you dreamed up just to sound deep and insightful about intelligence? If you think you have some insight about intelligence go do something useful with it, I don't know, try to publish a paper. Or, you know what? I've had it up to here with all the wild-ass swivel-eyed loon theories about what intelligence is and isn't. if you really think you know what intelligence is all about why don't you write it up as a program and run it on a computer, and show us all that your theory is right? Go ahead and create intelligence. Intelligence is compression? Go compress stuff and make it intelligent or whatever it is you think works. Put your money where your mouth is. Until then don't accuse others of bad faith.

YeGoblynQueenne 2y ago

>> No other function can be smaller than the actual function that generates the observations. You mean if I write a shitty program that takes the string "hello", copies it 10 million times and stores the copies, and then generates a single copy any time I run it, there's no algorithm that can achieve a better compression than that because "no other function can be smaller than the actual function that generates the observations"? I suggest, before coming up with fancy theories about compression and intelligence, that you read a bit about computer science, first. For instance, read up on information theory, and maybe about Kolmogorov complexity, the abstractions that people who swear that "compression <something something> intelligence" are basing their ideas on.

naasking 2y ago
I'm very familiar with Solomonoff Induction, thanks. Are you going to answer my question or make more bad faith tangents to avoid committing to an answer?
- YeGoblynQueenne 2y ago
  An answer to what? To some half-baked theory you dreamed up just to sound deep and insightful about intelligence? If you think you have some insight about intelligence go do something useful with it, I don't know, try to publish a paper. Or, you know what? I've had it up to here with all the wild-ass swivel-eyed loon theories about what intelligence is and isn't. if you really think you know what intelligence is all about why don't you write it up as a program and run it on a computer, and show us all that your theory is right? Go ahead and create intelligence. Intelligence is compression? Go compress stuff and make it intelligent or whatever it is you think works. Put your money where your mouth is. Until then don't accuse others of bad faith.