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That may be learning the wrong lesson. US corporations have used "securing supply chains" to justify encouraging the US government to incite a whole lot of str

That may be learning the wrong lesson. US corporations have used "securing supply chains" to justify encouraging the US government to incite a whole lot of strife and conflict around the world in the last century-and-a-bit.

genewitch 2y ago
yes please, find another ingredient that doesn't involve smuggling it out of a war-torn country, at the very least. Unfortunately i didn't know this when i bought some and now i got a giant tub of conflict gum that i'll probably never use. I got it to make "Chocolate Frosty" that wouldn't have the tiny ice crystals in it. It didn't work, i think you have to put it in something that is hot in order to activate it, and i didn't want to experiment to find out which part i could heat up without affecting the end result. there are other gums, too. And now that i know about the collection of gum arabic i'll avoid it in processed stuff, too. I already boycott nestle, and i can do without coca-cola, too.
- Aloisius 2y ago
  Coca-cola itself doesn't appear to contain gum arabic, at least not in the US. Outside the US, there are Coca-cola products that do though like some Schweppes and Fanta sodas.
  - genewitch 2y ago
    I feel like people misinterpreted what i was saying. I will now, when i am looking at a processed food, look for Gum Arabic in the ingredient list, and not purchase anything that contains it. I know what it is, because i have bought it for its intended purpose prior to learning it was possibly smuggled from a conflict area. I don't have any problem not buying products for reasons like this. No problem whatsoever. So if a company wants me to buy its product, they can use another ingredient that doesn't involve smuggling it out of a conflict zone.
mmooss 2y ago
> strife and conflict Also, a lot of oppression in the name of stability.
FuriouslyAdrift 2y ago
Yeah we destablised a whole nation (ok much more than one) just to secure a supply of bananas. "From 1954 onward Guatemala was ruled by a series of US-backed military dictators, leading to the Guatemalan Civil War which lasted until 1996. Approximately 200,000 civilians were killed in the war, and numerous human rights violations committed, including massacres of civilian populations, rape, aerial bombardment, and forced disappearances" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_PBFortune https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_PBFortune
- Sabinus 2y ago
  To be fair, the government did it to 'stop communism'. The US fruit companies persuaded the government to 'stop communism' because they wanted to secure cheap bananas.

genewitch 2y ago

yes please, find another ingredient that doesn't involve smuggling it out of a war-torn country, at the very least. Unfortunately i didn't know this when i bought some and now i got a giant tub of conflict gum that i'll probably never use. I got it to make "Chocolate Frosty" that wouldn't have the tiny ice crystals in it. It didn't work, i think you have to put it in something that is hot in order to activate it, and i didn't want to experiment to find out which part i could heat up without affecting the end result. there are other gums, too. And now that i know about the collection of gum arabic i'll avoid it in processed stuff, too. I already boycott nestle, and i can do without coca-cola, too.

Aloisius 2y ago
Coca-cola itself doesn't appear to contain gum arabic, at least not in the US. Outside the US, there are Coca-cola products that do though like some Schweppes and Fanta sodas.
- genewitch 2y ago
  I feel like people misinterpreted what i was saying. I will now, when i am looking at a processed food, look for Gum Arabic in the ingredient list, and not purchase anything that contains it. I know what it is, because i have bought it for its intended purpose prior to learning it was possibly smuggled from a conflict area. I don't have any problem not buying products for reasons like this. No problem whatsoever. So if a company wants me to buy its product, they can use another ingredient that doesn't involve smuggling it out of a conflict zone.

mmooss 2y ago

> strife and conflict Also, a lot of oppression in the name of stability.

FuriouslyAdrift 2y ago

Yeah we destablised a whole nation (ok much more than one) just to secure a supply of bananas. "From 1954 onward Guatemala was ruled by a series of US-backed military dictators, leading to the Guatemalan Civil War which lasted until 1996. Approximately 200,000 civilians were killed in the war, and numerous human rights violations committed, including massacres of civilian populations, rape, aerial bombardment, and forced disappearances" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_PBFortune https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_PBFortune

Sabinus 2y ago
To be fair, the government did it to 'stop communism'. The US fruit companies persuaded the government to 'stop communism' because they wanted to secure cheap bananas.